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Both sets of comments are good. I have a few more.<br>
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The double Key with the same rolls as the proposed Masters sequence
is in P19 with a K of 5. I've noticed before that there is some
kfactor creep in maneuvers intended for the A sequences.<br>
<br>
There are insufficient inverted exits as per the guide. 8 point
already brought up<br>
<br>
Maneuver 4 is really a 3/4 roll and reverse 1/4 roll. No room in
that leg for extended knife edge but where's the center on that leg?
Or is this intended to be some kind of broad base slanted "Z" or
Italicized Z?<br>
<br>
12 should be the missing 8 pt.<br>
<br>
In general there is an infatuation with excess in the vertical roll
segments causing the vertical issues mentioned. Even the keyhole
could be done with 1/2 rolls throughout. Doesn't lose difficulty
only altitude.<br>
<br>
One snap roll on 45 downline in 4 and a downline snap at the end of
box?<br>
How about making maneuver 4 a 1.5 snap and 2of4 on bottom leg? Put
the second snap somewhere on a climbing leg.<br>
<br>
Speaking of weird KFactors - how about 16? 2 slow rolls opposite
with no hesitation is a K3? Really? This looks like a kfactor
decrease to avoid exceeding the maximum sequence kfactor of 63
listed in the guide.<br>
<br>
What is the point of the 2of2 in the 1/2 square on corner? What is
accomplished that wouldn't be better with a 1/2 roll in each leg?<br>
<br>
John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/19/2017 5:12 PM, Jon Lowe via
NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">For what it's worth, I generally agree with Tony's
comments on the "P" pattern. A few other comments are below.
Note that this sequence does not meet three different criteria
in the development guide.</p>
<p dir="ltr">#14 (Double key). This is listed by the FAI as a K5
without any rolls in their advanced pattern. The proposed
manuever has several, which would bump it to a K6 or better.
Doesn't meet the guidelines, in my opinion, which only allow K5
maneuvers.</p>
<p dir="ltr"> #4, #6, #12. There seems to be an infatuation with
knife edge flight in this sequence, and the double immelmann has
two. With all of the manuevers in the guide, it would appear
something else could be substituted.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Too many overly tall maneuvers necessitated by either
point rolls on down lines, or as Tony said, the Z with KE at the
bottom. I've been able to live with 4500 mAh packs up to now. No
more.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Doesn't meet criteria of minimum of one 4 of 8 or an
8 pt. roll in the sequence.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Doesn't meet criteria for placement of positioning
manuevers at approximately 1/3 and 2/3 of way thru sequence.
Para 3.1 of criteria. Currently placed at #11 and #17 of 19.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jon</p>
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class="aolReplacedBody">I agree. Looking at the Masters
proposal it is a HUGE pattern. Full of asymmetrical maneuvers
that not only look bad but will be very hard to judge.
Terrible pattern.
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<div>Going over the Masters proposal here are my thoughts.
Also, sure wish they could have supplies the Aresti's.</div>
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<div>#2. With the full roll requirement this will have to be
flown huge to have the time for any hesitations before and
after the roll, especially since the roll is downwind.</div>
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<div>#3. There isn't really a requirement to make the two legs
of this maneuver the same length. I don't like that
interpretation because it removes the symmetry that I always
loved in pattern. Nevertheless, having no roll on one leg
and a 2 of 2 on the other will drive it to be asymmetrical
big time.</div>
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<div>#4. Having the roll sequence on the bottom leg will again
drive it asymmetrical. What will be the center of the
maneuver?</div>
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<div>#5. I absolutely hate the Clown Dances. Putting a spin
immediately after a 1/2 loop is just stupid. Too difficult
to judge the entry to the spin.</div>
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<div>#6. OK.</div>
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<div>#7. You want to put in these kind of maneuvers in
Masters, I am personally not against them. But it will drive
away many current Masters pilots and keep many Advanced
fliers in that class.</div>
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<div>#8. OK.</div>
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<div>#9. This is the second snap roll. Both of the snaps are
downline snaps, which for the most part are easier then
level or climbing snaps. The one snap is dictated as a
positive and this snap will be flown as a positive by 99% of
the pilots. I feel this is making the snaps too easy.</div>
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<div>#10. OK.</div>
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<div>#11. OK.</div>
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<div>#12. OK.</div>
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<div>#13. Description doesn't state about a hesitation between
the reversing 1/4 rolls. Is there a hesitation allowed?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>#14. Maneuver will have to be huge to have correct
geometry and time for the rolls.</div>
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<div>#15. Will have to be very tall to get in that diving
4-point roll.</div>
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<div>#16. Putting in no hesitation brings in all the problems
that F3A has with no hesitation. It's unnecessary in
Masters. Judging will be confusing. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>#17. Again, this will need to be tall.</div>
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<div>#18. OK.</div>
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<div>I'm not even going to comment on the individual maneuvers
in the proposed Masters "F". I find that idea to be so
against what Masters is supposed to be that I can't even
believe they did this proposal without discussing it amongst
the membership.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Can the Committee tell us what models were used to fly
this pattern and what the average mAh use was for each
model?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I currently fly Masters as at my age I really have zero
chance of being competitive in F3A F. I'm still OK at some
of the technical stuff like roll integration. But I really
suck at the many varied snaps in F. Let alone the
Unknowns. A man has to know his limitations. So I've been
flying Masters for the last two seasons with the hope of
being able to go to the Nats. But now that desire has been
eliminated with the announcement that Masters will only
have a 2 round Finals. I'm not going all that way, spend
all that money and have it end up in just a 2 round
Finals. Sorry, I won't do it. It leaves too much to
chance. I hope this will be resolved but with the Entry
deadline coming up next week I don't know if it will be
fixed before that passes. And I won't be paying the
ridiculously high late entry fees.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Tony Frackowiak</div>
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<div>On Jun 16, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Dave Lockhart wrote:</div>
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73, 125); ">Yes…..quite a bit of P17 has to be
flown big to look good…..I’d wager MORE of the
proposed Masters has to be flown BIG to look
good. I haven’t flown the proposed Masters, but
after designing sequences for 20 years and
flying F3A Unknowns for more than a decade……a
vote for the proposed Masters is a vote for
increased mah for the average Masters pilot.</span></div>
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Masters has many positive points as Mark
originally noted…..clarifying that is does not
have to be adopted is an essential element.</span></div>
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Tony via NSRCA-discussion<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span
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[NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Leadership / New
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serif; ">IMO P-17 sucks. No real flow to it. Too
many maneuvers that have to be flown big followed
by maneuvers that look terrible flown big. I
haven't even looked at P-19 as I was sure I didn't
need to do so!</div>
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at 7:30 AM, Atwood, Mark via
NSRCA-discussion wrote:</div>
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apologize a little for stirring the pot
last night, but my desired result was this
conversation. People expressing their
concerns and opinions, so this is GREAT!</div>
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of filling my inbox even more, I’d
encourage many of the lurkers out there
that monitor this list, but seldom chime
in, to do so. Even if it’s simply to
endorse or oppose an already expressed
opinion. </div>
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'Times New Roman', serif; ">On the
subject of adopting the P pattern in
masters, I’d like to clarify. I’m NOT
proposing, or endorsing being tied to
FAI P. Meaning we don’t need a proposal
that legislates we follow the FAI P
pattern for Masters. I agree with those
that state that FAI can create some
wacky sequences and we don’t want to be
locked to that. BUT… we CAN put forth
the proposed P pattern as our next
Masters pattern and look to each
successive P sequence as our starting
point. If there’s a crazy maneuver (ala
the Barral roll), then we simply alter
it. It still gives us most of the
advantages in judging, and flying by
having a very similar pattern.
Currently, both P-17 and P-19 are very
viable Masters sequences with no
alteration. Why not start there? If
P-21 is good, then great, if not, we can
consider changing the one or two
maneuvers that seem questionable. That
was really my intent. Not a binding
proposal.</div>
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the board did not have time to
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pressing concerns we agreed to
table them until a separate
meeting could be scheduled for
the BOD to review them and
vote on them before they are
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA
Leadership / New Sequences -
My thoughts - Long</p>
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guys. My DVP has been doing
his best to forward minutes
and documents to our D4
Mailing list as soon and as
often as he can. We love
him! </p>
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were sent out last night
prior to the BOD Meeting
(he received them last
night as well, and
circulated them for
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District.). The resulting
email firestorm and
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PM, Jon Lowe via
NSRCA-discussion <<a
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serif; ">For those of
us who haven't seen
the proposed
sequences, what are
they? Are you
implying that Masters
might have a P&F?
Good god, I hope not.
And only Masters has
to change every two
years, according to
AMA rules. Other
classes change every
four years. Further,
according to the AMA
rule book, NSRCA must
submit the sequences
to the membership for
approval prior to
implementation by the
BoD.</div>
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serif; ">We still have
also not heard a peep
from the BoD on the
Nats situation. A
month out and we still
don't know who is in
charge, or what the
FAI and Masters finals
are going to consist
of?I've also heard of
some sort of
unpublished MOA
between NSRCA and Mike
H about the NATS.
Would be nice to know
if that is true, and,
if so, see a copy. I
looked thru the BoDs
book of motions, and
at least thru April of
this year, there is no
mention of one being
accepted by the BoD.
There was also no
mention of any
particular NATs format
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someone from the BoD
will let us know soon
what is going on with
the NATs and the
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Mark via
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our District VP
distributed
proposed new
sequences for
2018, and it’s
resulted in quite
the brew-ha-ha in
our district (D4).
There’s really
two issues of
concern being
debated in our
district list and
I’d like to
address them both,
and open up the
floor for
nation-wide, full
membership
discussion.</p>
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I suspect this
could become a
long post, I’ll
create a quick
exec summary to
start. I want
to emphasize
that this is all
simply MY
opinion. It
carry’s no more
weight than any
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#1</b>)
there’s
significant
concern that the
NSRCA Leadership
isn’t listening.
That they have
their own set
opinion, and are
going to use
their authority
to make that
opinion reality.</p>
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believe that
perception IS
reality.
Regardless of
the truth of
these
accusations, I
feel it needs to
be addressed. </p>
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#2</b>) The
new sequences.
The comments
are that they
are too hard,
too many
(masters
P&F), no
collaboration,
no voice from
the membership,
no survey, etc.
</p>
</div>
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think…
Sportsman,
intermediate,
Advanced are
fine. I also
think they
should change
less frequently,
OR…ideally we
create 3
sequences for
each (A, B, C),
and rotate them
every 2 years.
More on why in
the details.</p>
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- I think we
should STRONGLY
consider having
masters fly the
current FAI P
pattern.
Always. LOTS
of supporting
comments on this
below. It fixes
MANY problems
(and as always,
creates a few).</p>
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the first issue
is of deep
concern to me,
because I see
people leaving
the NSRCA, and
Pattern in
general as a
result. That’s
personally
painful as I’ve
been a member
for a very long
time and have
always felt it
was a great
organization and
have worked hard
to encourage
others to join
us. I don’t
believe that
anyone in the
organization is
trying to be a
dictator, or
usurp the
control from the
masses. But I
do believe that
the lack of
transparency in
some of the more
recent issues
has lead to
mistrust. And
WE MUST FIX
THAT. </p>
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current issue
with the
Nationals is a
prime example.
D4 is a heavy
participant at
the nationals
due to our
geographic
proximity (we
LOVE Muncie!).
But we
understand the
need to move it
around and our
group was a
strong supporter
of trying a new
venue even
though we
personally would
all have farther
to travel. Not
all, but many of
our regulars
will be in
Arkansas. But
as a group, we
were all in
Muncie when
there was
collective
agreement that
Al Glenn had
done a great job
in 2016, and was
selected to be
the ED for 2017,
which was later
confirmed by the
BOD. We also
knew that there
was an official
vote to move the
Nats to Arkansas
and that Mike
Harrison would
be facilitating
that move. </p>
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those rolls,
making Mike the
ED, Is not only
seen as being
horribly
disrespectful to
Al Glenn, but
smacks us (the
outside
membership) as
“behind closed
doors” politics.
Something
that’s
intolerable in a
hobby. Mike
may be the
greatest ED of
all time. But
there’s a
process we go
through,
membership to
communicate with
and get
consensus from,
and general
common courtesy
to Al, ALL of
which appears to
have been laid
to waste. If
that’s NOT the
reality… it’s
clearly the
perception. It
may be too late
to fix the
reality of who’s
doing what for
the nats. But I
would very much
like NSRCA
leadership to
start addressing
the issue,
perception or
reality, in a
meaningful,
transparent, and
communicative
manner. And if
decisions were
made
inappropriately,
simply
apologize, and
we’ll move on,
and make an
effort not to
repeat them. No
one here is a
paid
professional.
EVERYONE is
doing their best
to promote the
hobby they love.
We all have
opinions (I’m
clearly
expressing
mine), and we
won’t all agree.
Just remember
that board
members are
elected to voice
the opinions of
their ENTIRE
district, which
may differ with
their own
personal
opinions. </p>
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whining on that.
</p>
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2. Sequences</b></p>
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classes<span
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Meant to be the
Building blocks
for Pattern.
Each class
having
increasing
difficulty,
measured spacing
in complexity,
designed to
prepare the
pilot for the
next class.
ALL classes are
potential
“Destination”
classes for a
variety of
reasons, (Time,
age, interest,
talent, etc).
As such,
changing the
schedules
periodically
allows for some
variety without
moving classes.
All Good. </p>
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that said,
creating all new
sequences ever
few years is
both a time
consuming
effort, and
requires strict
discipline and
guidelines to
prevent
complexity
creep. So my
suggestion is,
rather than a
new committee
making a new set
of sequences
every few years,
that instead, we
take the time to
create 3
sequences for
each class, an
A, B and C
pattern, which
would allow a
one time effort
to produce
balanced,
thoughtful,
progressive
sequences that
would
effectively
create a 6 year
cycle in any
class before the
patterns
repeated (assume
you flew each
for 2 years).
Even for the
perennial
Advanced flyer,
that’s
sufficient to
provide
challenge if
they truly are
unable to move
up. As
always… My $0.02</p>
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This one I
have strong
opinions on so
bear with me.
We have
numerous issues
to solve…</p>
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<p
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perennial
Masters pilots
that want ever
increasing
complexity but
who lack the
desire to
attempt to fly
the F pattern in
FAI. </p>
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<div>
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every increasing
complexity gap
as FAI continues
to push the
boundaries of
what our
aircraft can do</p>
</div>
<div>
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dwindling FAI
class due to
that gap, and a
Masters sequence
that does little
to truly prep a
pilot for FAI</p>
</div>
<div>
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challenges, as
ever increasing
complexity in
our routines
makes them
harder to judge
if you’re not
intimately
familiar with
the sequence.</p>
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Logistics - Too
many in one
class, not
enough in
another
(typically
Masters vs FAI)</p>
</div>
<div>
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my mind, ONE
thing fixes all
of this. <b>Adopting
the P pattern
as our Masters
class
sequence.</b></p>
</div>
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the rest of the
world, The P
pattern IS the
pattern for
those not flying
the full FAI
program. It’s
designed with
that in mind.
It’s complex,
but very much on
par with our
typical Masters
programs. It
will challenge
those bored
pilots and
changes reliably
every 2 years
with NO effort!</p>
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FAI adds new
maneuvers, they
put components
of them into the
P pattern. More
snaps, some KE
segments,
introductory
integrated
rolling, etc.
Without this,
the gap between
FAI and Masters
will continue to
widen, making
the jump for all
but a few
virtually
impossible.</p>
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flying the P
pattern for the
season, should a
masters pilot
choose to try
FAI, they only
have one
additional
pattern to
learn. It’s a
less daunting
exercise than
suddenly having
2 new sequences.
In reverse,
should there be
limited FAI
participants at
a contest,
eliminating the
FAI class for
logistical
reasons allows
the one or two
FAI pilots to
simply fly
Masters at the
local event and
not have it be a
complete
unknown. Or
alternatively,
several of the
top Masters
pilots could opt
to fly with the
FAI group, and
possibly agree
not to fly the F
sequence.
Bottom line,
there are more
options.</p>
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- BOTH classes
benefit
tremendously
from improved
judging as more
people will know
the nuances of
the sequence
they’re judging
as an active
flyer of it. No
more missed
zeros because
they don’t know
it. </p>
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are so many
reasons (ok, in
MY mind) why
this makes sense
that I don’t
really
understand the
opposition to
it. Yes, the
FAI crew throws
in a half
integrated loop
here and there
and I know some
are deathly
opposed to that.
I also recall
the first time
we told masters
pilots to roll
both right AND
left… 1998. My
world came to an
end. But we
learned. Our
planes roll so
easily now by
comparison to a
curare that we
should expect
the maneuvers to
advance with
them. </p>
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I’ll get off my
soap box. These
are MY opinions.
I think they’re
born from a good
deal of
experience, but
they’re still
just one
person’s
thoughts. We
need to get back
to open
discussion,
survey’s, and
consensus. No,
we won’t please
everyone. But
we do need to
please “most”.
We all love
this niche of
the hobby. We
all want it to
grow. We all
have good
intentions.
Let’s go into
conversations
with that in
mind. </p>
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