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    Dave,<br>
    <br>
    The previous two sequence committees under Dale Olstinske made a
    definite effort to comply with the guidelines for setting up the
    committee. There were committee members from most districts and I
    believe all classes were covered, including Sportsman. There was a
    definite effort to comply with the specific sequence guidelines for
    each class. It's possible that something fell in the cracks but I
    doubt it. There were a lot of eyes looking for guideline violations.<br>
    As has been the history of a number of sequence committees, the
    guidelines were modified to incorporate some new maneuvers. Also,
    the guidelines were changed and approved by the committee and the
    board to allow simple roll/loop combinations. No such maneuvers were
    incorporated  until the following cycle so there was springing of
    previously illegal maneuvers all in one cycle. <br>
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    Which brings us to the current committee and there I agree with you
    about both charter and guideline violations.<br>
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    When you refer to P and F for Masters, Are those the international
    symbols or strictly local for Masters dedicated sequences? I haven't
    heard of anyone supporting using both FAI p and f sequences for
    masters. For that matter, I don't know who, aside from the current
    sequence committee, is in favor of using two sequences in Masters at
    all. I'm certainly not.<br>
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    I am in favor of using the FAI "P" for Masters, particularly if we
    can avoid this major bruhaha every two years. All the other classes
    tend to shut up and go fly their new sequence.<br>
    <br>
    John<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/19/2017 10:30 AM, DaveL322 via
      NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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      <div>I think in part what these recent discussions have missed is
        the simple fact that we have a very detailed document originally
        prepared based on a survey of the membership.  I think it is a
        very reasonable expectation of the membership that the
        organization follow the rules. </div>
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      <div>To my eye, the last several iterations of the sequence
        committee have not followed the sequence guidance document(s).
         Sequences proposed should be compliant with the guidance.  The
        guidance document should not be changed after the fact to match
        the sequences.  Changes to the guidance document for the
        purposes of clerical / clarification / consistency can and
        should made by the seq com, and updates to varieties of
        permitted maneuvers should be made.  No other changes should be
        made without direction, consensus, approval from the membership
        as a whole.</div>
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      <div>The precious time of our volunteers should not be spent
        developing ideas that the organization as a whole may or may not
        support.  Ad hoc sales pitch last minute surveys to a limited
        segment of the membership is not an accurate or effective way to
        determine the desires of the membership. </div>
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      <div>If I can ask a question of the current and probable Masters
        pilots that support the idea of P and F for Masters..... Why are
        you not moving to F3A? </div>
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        <div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent from my Sprint
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        <div>From: Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion
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        <div>Date: 6/19/17 11:41 AM (GMT-05:00) </div>
        <div>To: Richard Wallace <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rickwallace45@gmail.com"><rickwallace45@gmail.com></a> </div>
        <div>Cc: General pattern discussion
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        <div>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Leadership / New
          Sequences - My thoughts - Long </div>
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          style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">I think that
          we are almost in a place for sequence development that the
          committee just cannot do right.  There is a push to continue
          to increase the difficulty of Masters to "try" and keep up
          with FAI (good luck).  But for every action, there's an equal
          and opposite reaction.  You are correct in that increasing
          difficulty in Masters almost makes you increase the difficulty
          in the other classes just to maintain an increase that is
          acceptable between classes and not some huge hurdle that is
          insurmountable.  This has been the battle for ever. </div>
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          style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">In D7, they
          have the numbers to fly a 6th class that they call "FAI
          Silver".  Essentially, this is a class between AMA Masters and
          FAI in which they simply fly the P pattern.  Personally, I
          LOVE this idea.  It allows those wishing to move up to FAI
          eventually a much easier way of actually making this step by
          flying P and then, preferably on off-years, start flying FAI
          full time as you would then only have to learn 1 pattern (F). 
          In a perfect world, this would certainly be the answer. 
          Unfortunately, we are far from that world.  The argument
          against a 6th class is the amount of Masters and FAI
          participants doesn't allow for that class to be created in
          most districts (although I feel that the strong Masters pilots
          and the (please forgive the term) lower FAI pilots would move
          to this class to be competitive), the cost for a club to add a
          6th class may not be profitable, the judging could potentially
          cause an issue (although I see many ways this would be OK),
          etc.  I definitely understand why, in our present state, it
          does not make sense to create this class but it sure as heck
          seems like it works in D7.  If it were here in D6, I'd make
          that step.  I feel that my skills aren't close to being
          competitive in any sense of the word in F but, one day, I'll
          get there.  I do feel like I could compete in P.  Why don't I
          just step up to fly FAI and only fly P now?  There is no way I
          could win or place at a contest only flying P and I'd have to
          essentially miss 2 flights on Sunday or just fly P for no
          reason while everyone else flew F.  You must fly F to be
          competitive and I definitely do this to compete and be
          competitive.  It is my sport.  When I finally do move up, do I
          expect to win and place right away?  Heck no but I also would
          like to be able to get through without a zero.  Unfortunately,
          that in itself is an accomplishment in F.</div>
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          style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">It is also my
          opinion that P15, 17, and 19 are easier than our current
          Masters sequence and certainly, what was initially proposed
          this year (I hope we see another iteration which I'm sure we
          will).  Following this "average" of P over the last 6 years
          actually would solve many problems in my opinion.  As Mark
          explained, if a Pxx was to have a Barrel Roll in it, the
          Sequence Committee could simply put something else in its
          place.  Hard maneuver not suitable for Masters taken out and
          solved.  I have no problem with Masters being a destination
          class.  Actually, I have no problem with Intermediate being a
          destination class IF that's where someone feels most
          comfortable and, most importantly, continues to participate. 
          There's the problem of a sandbagger in that case (heck it's
          there in Masters) but, honestly, if they want to sandbag, we
          need to simply get better to beat that person and when we do,
          we probably have a better chance of being better in the next
          class as well.  I remember back in '93 and '94 when Rusty
          Fried used to dominate the Masters class.  I was all of 23 and
          it pissed me off he wouldn't move up and let the rest of us
          have a chance to win.  I told him one day and I'll never
          forget what he said.  He said "Scott, consider me a barrier to
          the next level.  When you beat me, you're ready for the next
          class.  Until then, take your whoopin and keep practicing". 
          Much to my chagrin, he was right.  I never did beat him at a
          contest but it did push me to be able to take a round from him
          now and then and that was a great accomplishment.  I had
          gotten better.  I do also understand how this could be a
          detriment to others attending that don't have the drive that I
          did/do to keep after it.  As I stated at the beginning, I'm
          not so sure one solution is going to serve everyone perfectly.</div>
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          style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">All this to
          say, there are several ways to skin a cat.  There are pros and
          cons to each.  With the complexity of what is being proposed
          versus the fairly steady consistency of P over the years, it's
          at least something for this board to consider.  After all,
          that's all we're asking for; consideration.  </div>
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                          size="4">Scott A. McHarg</font></b><br>
                      <div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div>
                      <div>Texas A&M University</div>
                      <div>PPL - ASEL</div>
                      <div>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:01 AM,
          Richard Wallace <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      <div>Scott, all - <br>
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                      This is quite a discussion - and it seems there
                      are some major points of agreement here - as well
                      as some triggers for introspection and
                      re-examination about why folks do the "Pattern"
                      thing. <br>
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                    I'm one of those who no longer flies competitively,
                    after being pretty active for a decade. I was never
                    really competitive in Pattern, but had a great time,
                    made some true friends, and became a MUCH better R/C
                    pilot through my few thousand practice and contest
                    flights. I wanted to share share some thoughts about
                    staying in Pattern, and about sequence design, and
                    ... stuff. <br>
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                  I stayed in Pattern for more than a decade because it
                  was a challenge that seemed (for the first years)
                  achievable. I certainly got better as i flew more, and
                  had some limited success at local contests (never at
                  the Nats, tho that was fun too for a long time) - and
                  again, it was FUN hanging out with, and competing
                  against the local gang. I even had fun as a DVP for a
                  few of those years, and hopefully made a difference
                  while in that position. <br>
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                A few things piled up later on to make Pattern less fun.
                First, my job moved me to a new area where there is
                little Pattern activity. <br>
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                Second, the move from Glow to Electric turned out to be
                quite a change - "Tradin' in my WIndex for a Generator"
                turned out to require a new mindset, different skills
                (power / mah management!), equipment, etc, and a
                different approach to casual flying - hard to decide on
                Saturday morning to go out to the field if you didn't
                invest part of Friday night charging batteries... <br>
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              <div>Third, I realized that I probably had some hard
                limitations on physical ability (involving depth
                perception / distance - judging capability at 150m at
                speed...) <br>
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              <div>And changing sequences... both a blessing and a
                curse... Dave Lockhart, Joey Lachowski and others on the
                first Sequence Committees laid down some great
                guidelines, and I really enjoyed flying the sequences
                they proposed and created.   But.... it did get to be
                more work to stretch to each of the new sequences as
                they came out. This is a good thing, I'm sure, up to a
                point. <br>
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              <div>All this, and consistent "also-ran" results at local
                Masters contests (and bottom of the field results at the
                Nats) despite the practice and time and $$ spent, made
                me decide over time that there might be better ways to
                spend my leisure time... <br>
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              <div>Anyway, the final thought about sequences is that
                Rick the former mediocre, run of the mill Pattern pilot
                believes that Masters is <b>and should remain</b> a
                true destination class, rather than some kind of
                stepping stone to whatever the FAI puts out from cycle
                to cycle. The FAI - aspiring pilots will get there on
                their own, without an ever-tougher US Masters class as a
                stepping stone (and besides - if Masters gets tougher,
                then doesn't that <b>mandate</b> tougher Intermediate
                and advanced sequences as US Pattern stepping
                stones???). <br>
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                I was a below-average Masters pilot who loved flying and
                hanging out and judging (even those impossible P and F
                sequences!) ... but never had any desire at all to get
                proficient in rolling loops or circles or that kind of
                stuff <b>as part of a graded sequence</b>. I'll mess
                with them with a sport plane, sure, but just don't want
                to be required to fly  them with my main competition
                bird under all the possible weather conditions we'd
                compete in... <br>
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                  <div>Staying in the NSRCA? <br>
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                  <div> - Is the local pattern group fun to hang out
                    with? <br>
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                  <div> - Are there contests within reasonable driving
                    distance? <br>
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                  <div> - Is the NSRCA leadership visible and
                    accessible? Can a guy just talk to them?<br>
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                  <div> - Is what they're doing visible to the members?
                    (this whole discussion thread may shed some light on
                    that... ???) <br>
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                  <div> - Is there a way for the Board to find out
                    periodically what the members are thinking /
                    wanting/ needing? (and this set probably looks
                    different for different age / skill / interest /
                    $$-equipped groups) <br>
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                  <div> - What does the NSRCA add to the Pattern
                    experience of the local pattern guy? - or the guy
                    who's considering trying pattern out? <br>
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                  <div>Thanks for listening, those of you still carrying
                    the torch - maybe I'll see you on the flightline
                    sometime!<br>
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                  <div>Exiting the (soap)box! <br>
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                  <div>Rick Wallace <br>
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                  <div>AMA L727<br>
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                  <div>(Former) NSRCA 2792<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:10 PM,
                Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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                wrote:<br>
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                      style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">Mark
                      and I spent some time yesterday talking about all
                      of this being discussed.  I am completely on board
                      with his proposal(s) personally and, to be honest,
                      it would be nice to hear from the board on these
                      matters.  I'd like to thank Anthony Romano for
                      saying something to this discussion.  I do think
                      it's important for us to remember that Scott
                      McNickle put these "proposed" sequences out to his
                      district for comment (as we are all doing) but <u><b>prior</b></u>
                      to the BoD even having a discussion about these
                      for submission to the populace.  It is possible
                      the BoD may reject this in part or in whole.  What
                      has come out is the first step.  The second step
                      is for the BoD to make a decision if it's even
                      something they want to put out for us to decide if
                      we like it or not.  Then, we get our hands on it
                      and have our say-so.  In essence, I think we
                      should give the BoD a chance to filter through the
                      information.  These are not what the BoD has
                      approved for our digestion, merely, a proposal
                      from a committee.</div>
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                      style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">Lastly,
                      I've been thinking a lot about the pattern
                      community and why its membership is declining.  We
                      spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to
                      get new blood in to increase attendance.  I think
                      it's important, as some have eluded to, to
                      concentrate to some extent on keeping those
                      involved in pattern happy and involved. 
                      Attendance has always come in waves.  Some years
                      we have a ton in the lower classes followed by
                      lower attendance in those classes.  It's been the
                      norm forever.  What I see happening now is that
                      does indeed continue.  The problem is the decline
                      in the upper classes.  Our staunch supporters and
                      purveyors of pattern on packing it up and doing
                      something else.  We no longer have a jam in
                      Masters at every contest and this holds true even
                      in FAI while Advanced and Intermediate thrive at
                      about the normal average.  Just have a look at the
                      NATS registration in Masters for proof.  Maybe our
                      thoughts need to turn more to keeping our members
                      that have been flying forever.  The most
                      attractive thing to a newcomer isn't what plane is
                      being flown or whose sandbagging.  It's looking
                      around the pit area and seeing everyone having a
                      great time and taking interest in what's in the
                      air and whose flying.  Who has smiles on their
                      face versus what group is huddled together
                      complaining about the complexities of political
                      BS.  If I were new to this sport and the people
                      that have been doing this a while...the people I
                      should be looking up to...are all disgruntled by
                      what's going on, I'm not too sure I'd want to be a
                      part of that and become "grumpy" about my sport
                      that I was considering.</div>
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                      style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">I
                      suggest turning to the folks that are in the sport
                      and enjoy it and see how to keep them.  This, in
                      turn, will actually help bring in new folks as
                      well.  People enjoying what they do instead of
                      wanting to get out will surely attract more than
                      the other way.</div>
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                                      McHarg</font></b><br>
                                  <div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research
                                    Pilot</div>
                                  <div>Texas A&M University</div>
                                  <div>PPL - ASEL</div>
                                  <div>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA
                                    Part 107</div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at
                          10:42 AM, Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion <span
                            dir="ltr"><<a
                              href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                                <p>From my experience in the past we had
                                  a bunch of people who were supposed to
                                  participate in the sequence
                                  development process. It always wound
                                  up being a hand full doing all the
                                  work and the rest looking in or not
                                  even  participating like they should
                                  have. It was frustrating to see.<br>
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                                    dir="ltr"><font
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                                      color="#000000" face="Calibri,
                                      sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
                                      NSRCA-discussion <<a
                                        href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion-bounces@list<wbr>s.nsrca.org</a>>
                                      on behalf of Frackowiak Tony via
                                      NSRCA-discussion <<a
                                        href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>><br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 16, 2017
                                      7:49 AM<span><br>
                                        <b>To:</b> Jon Lowe; General
                                        pattern discussion<br>
                                      </span>
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                                          class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519h5"><b>Subject:</b>
                                          Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA
                                          Leadership / New Sequences -
                                          My thoughts - Long</div>
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                                      <div>I was told it is Sean (D8-
                                        Masters), his friend Derek
                                        Emmett (D7 - Masters), Stuart
                                        Chale (?) and Jim Hiller (?).
                                        Sorry, I don't know the
                                        districts and classes of Stuart
                                        and Jim. But this in itself
                                        seems against the norms. Only 4
                                        members? 2 of which as far as I
                                        know are from the west coast.
                                        Really improper.
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Tony Frackowiak</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>On Jun 16, 2017, at
                                              7:09 AM, Jon Lowe via
                                              NSRCA-discussion wrote:</div>
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                                              <p dir="ltr">Anthony,<br>
                                                Who is on the sequence
                                                committee besides Sean
                                                Mersh?</p>
                                              <p dir="ltr">Jon</p>
                                              <br>
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style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-size:14px">On Thursday, June 15, 2017
                                                Anthony Romano <<span
style="color:rgb(0,0,160)"><a href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">anthonyr105@hotmail.com</a></span>>
                                                wrote:</span><br>
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                                                  <div>Before you all
                                                    get out your
                                                    lanterns and pitch
                                                    forks let me provide
                                                    a little of the
                                                    pending update. </div>
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                                                  <div>The sequences
                                                    were given to the
                                                    board just a few
                                                    hours before last
                                                    night's meeting.
                                                    Since the board did
                                                    not have time to
                                                    review them and had
                                                    more pressing
                                                    concerns we agreed
                                                    to table them until
                                                    a separate meeting
                                                    could be scheduled
                                                    for the BOD to
                                                    review them and vote
                                                    on them before they
                                                    are distributed. </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>An update on the
                                                    Nats will be
                                                    published before the
                                                    weekend. </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Anthony </div>
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                                                      from my Galaxy
                                                      Tab® S2</div>
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                                                  <div>-------- Original
                                                    message --------</div>
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                                                    From: "Atwood, Mark
                                                    via
                                                    NSRCA-discussion"
                                                    <nsrca-<a
                                                      href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
                                                      target="_blank"
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                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Date: 6/15/17
                                                    11:13 PM (GMT-05:00)
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>To: Jon Lowe <<a
href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonlowe@aol.com</a>>,
                                                    General pattern
                                                    discussion
                                                    <nsrca-<a
                                                      href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Subject: Re:
                                                    [NSRCA-discussion]
                                                    NSRCA Leadership /
                                                    New Sequences - My
                                                    thoughts - Long
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
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                                                    <div>Umm…. Sorry
                                                      guys.  My DVP has
                                                      been doing his
                                                      best to forward
                                                      minutes and
                                                      documents to our
                                                      D4 Mailing list as
                                                      soon and as often
                                                      as he can.  We
                                                      love him!  
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>I will try to
                                                        attach here the
                                                        sequence
                                                        proposals that
                                                        were sent out
                                                        last night prior
                                                        to the BOD
                                                        Meeting (he
                                                        received them
                                                        last night as
                                                        well, and
                                                        circulated them
                                                        for feedback
                                                        from our
                                                        District.).  The
                                                        resulting email
                                                        firestorm and
                                                        discussion is
                                                        what prompted my
                                                        earlier diatribe
                                                        and
                                                        recommendations. </div>
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                                                          <div>On Jun
                                                          15, 2017, at
                                                          11:05 PM, Jon
                                                          Lowe via
                                                          NSRCA-discussion
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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                                                          <p dir="ltr">For
                                                          those of us
                                                          who haven't
                                                          seen the
                                                          proposed
                                                          sequences,
                                                          what are
                                                          they?  Are you
                                                          implying that
                                                          Masters might
                                                          have a
                                                          P&F? Good
                                                          god, I hope
                                                          not. And only
                                                          Masters has to
                                                          change every
                                                          two years,
                                                          according to
                                                          AMA rules.
                                                          Other classes
                                                          change every
                                                          four years.
                                                          Further,
                                                          according to
                                                          the AMA rule
                                                          book, NSRCA
                                                          must submit
                                                          the sequences
                                                          to the
                                                          membership for
                                                          approval prior
                                                          to
                                                          implementation
                                                          by the BoD.</p>
                                                          <p dir="ltr">We
                                                          still have
                                                          also not heard
                                                          a peep from
                                                          the BoD on the
                                                          Nats
                                                          situation. A
                                                          month out and
                                                          we still don't
                                                          know who is in
                                                          charge, or
                                                          what the FAI
                                                          and Masters
                                                          finals are
                                                          going to
                                                          consist
                                                          of?I've also
                                                          heard of some
                                                          sort of
                                                          unpublished
                                                          MOA between
                                                          NSRCA and Mike
                                                          H about the
                                                          NATS. Would be
                                                          nice to know
                                                          if that is
                                                          true, and, if
                                                          so, see a
                                                          copy. I looked
                                                          thru the BoDs
                                                          book of
                                                          motions, and
                                                          at least thru
                                                          April of this
                                                          year, there is
                                                          no mention of
                                                          one being
                                                          accepted by
                                                          the BoD. There
                                                          was also no
                                                          mention of any
                                                          particular
                                                          NATs format
                                                          being accepted
                                                          by the BoD.</p>
                                                          <p dir="ltr">I
                                                          hope someone
                                                          from the BoD
                                                          will let us
                                                          know soon what
                                                          is going on
                                                          with the NATs
                                                          and the
                                                          sequences.</p>
                                                          <p dir="ltr">Jon</p>
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                                                          style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-size:14px">On
                                                          Thursday, June
                                                          15, 2017
                                                          Atwood, Mark
                                                          via
                                                          NSRCA-discussion
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                                                          wrote:</span><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <div
class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_aolReplacedBody">Recently
                                                          our District
                                                          VP distributed
                                                          proposed new
                                                          sequences for
                                                          2018, and it’s
                                                          resulted in
                                                          quite the
                                                          brew-ha-ha in
                                                          our district
                                                          (D4).  There’s
                                                          really two
                                                          issues of
                                                          concern being
                                                          debated in our
                                                          district list
                                                          and I’d like
                                                          to address
                                                          them both, and
                                                          open up the
                                                          floor for
                                                          nation-wide,
                                                          full
                                                          membership
                                                          discussion.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Since I
                                                          suspect this
                                                          could become a
                                                          long post,
                                                          I’ll create a
                                                          quick exec
                                                          summary to
                                                          start.  I want
                                                          to emphasize
                                                          that this is
                                                          all simply MY
                                                          opinion.  It
                                                          carry’s no
                                                          more weight
                                                          than any other
                                                          member.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>Issue
                                                          #1</b>)
                                                          there’s
                                                          significant
                                                          concern that
                                                          the NSRCA
                                                          Leadership
                                                          isn’t
                                                          listening. 
                                                          That they have
                                                          their own set
                                                          opinion, and
                                                          are going to
                                                          use their
                                                          authority to
                                                          make that
                                                          opinion
                                                          reality.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>I
                                                          believe that
                                                          perception IS
                                                          reality. 
                                                          Regardless of
                                                          the truth of
                                                          these
                                                          accusations, I
                                                          feel it needs
                                                          to be
                                                          addressed.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>Issue
                                                          #2</b>)  The
                                                          new
                                                          sequences. 
                                                          The comments
                                                          are that they
                                                          are too hard,
                                                          too many
                                                          (masters
                                                          P&F), no
                                                          collaboration,
                                                          no voice from
                                                          the
                                                          membership, no
                                                          survey, etc.
                                                            </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>I
                                                          think…  
                                                          Sportsman,
                                                          intermediate,
                                                          Advanced are
                                                          fine.  I also
                                                          think they
                                                          should change
                                                          less
                                                          frequently,
                                                          OR…ideally we
                                                          create 3
                                                          sequences for
                                                          each (A, B,
                                                          C), and rotate
                                                          them every 2
                                                          years.  More
                                                          on why in the
                                                          details.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Masters
                                                          - I think we
                                                          should
                                                          STRONGLY
                                                          consider
                                                          having masters
                                                          fly the
                                                          current FAI P
                                                          pattern. 
                                                          Always.  
                                                           LOTS of
                                                          supporting
                                                          comments on
                                                          this below. 
                                                          It fixes MANY
                                                          problems (and
                                                          as always,
                                                          creates a
                                                          few).</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>So the
                                                          first issue is
                                                          of deep
                                                          concern to me,
                                                          because I see
                                                          people leaving
                                                          the NSRCA, and
                                                          Pattern in
                                                          general as a
                                                          result. 
                                                          That’s
                                                          personally
                                                          painful as
                                                          I’ve been a
                                                          member for a
                                                          very long time
                                                          and have
                                                          always felt it
                                                          was a great
                                                          organization
                                                          and have
                                                          worked hard to
                                                          encourage
                                                          others to join
                                                          us.  I don’t
                                                          believe that
                                                          anyone in the
                                                          organization
                                                          is trying to
                                                          be a dictator,
                                                          or usurp the
                                                          control from
                                                          the masses. 
                                                          But I do
                                                          believe that
                                                          the lack of
                                                          transparency
                                                          in some of the
                                                          more recent
                                                          issues has
                                                          lead to
                                                          mistrust.  And
                                                          WE MUST FIX
                                                          THAT. </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The
                                                          current issue
                                                          with the
                                                          Nationals is a
                                                          prime
                                                          example.  D4
                                                          is a heavy
                                                          participant at
                                                          the nationals
                                                          due to our
                                                          geographic
                                                          proximity (we
                                                          LOVE
                                                          Muncie!).  But
                                                          we understand
                                                          the need to
                                                          move it around
                                                          and our group
                                                          was a strong
                                                          supporter of
                                                          trying a new
                                                          venue even
                                                          though we
                                                          personally
                                                          would all have
                                                          farther to
                                                          travel.  Not
                                                          all, but many
                                                          of our
                                                          regulars will
                                                          be in
                                                          Arkansas.  
                                                          But as a
                                                          group, we were
                                                          all in Muncie
                                                          when there was
                                                          collective
                                                          agreement that
                                                          Al Glenn had
                                                          done a great
                                                          job in 2016,
                                                          and was
                                                          selected to be
                                                          the ED for
                                                          2017, which
                                                          was later
                                                          confirmed by
                                                          the BOD.    We
                                                          also knew that
                                                          there was an
                                                          official vote
                                                          to move the
                                                          Nats to
                                                          Arkansas and
                                                          that Mike
                                                          Harrison would
                                                          be
                                                          facilitating
                                                          that move.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Changing
                                                          those rolls,
                                                          making Mike
                                                          the ED, Is not
                                                          only seen as
                                                          being horribly
                                                          disrespectful
                                                          to Al Glenn,
                                                          but smacks us
                                                          (the outside
                                                          membership) as
                                                          “behind closed
                                                          doors”
                                                          politics. 
                                                          Something
                                                          that’s
                                                          intolerable in
                                                          a hobby.  
                                                          Mike may be
                                                          the greatest
                                                          ED of all
                                                          time.  But
                                                          there’s a
                                                          process we go
                                                          through,
                                                          membership to
                                                          communicate
                                                          with and get
                                                          consensus
                                                          from, and
                                                          general common
                                                          courtesy to
                                                          Al, ALL of
                                                          which appears
                                                          to have been
                                                          laid to
                                                          waste.  If
                                                          that’s NOT the
                                                          reality… it’s
                                                          clearly the
                                                          perception. 
                                                          It may be too
                                                          late to fix
                                                          the reality of
                                                          who’s doing
                                                          what for the
                                                          nats.  But I
                                                          would very
                                                          much like
                                                          NSRCA
                                                          leadership to
                                                          start
                                                          addressing the
                                                          issue,
                                                          perception or
                                                          reality, in a
                                                          meaningful,
                                                          transparent,
                                                          and
                                                          communicative
                                                          manner.  And
                                                          if decisions
                                                          were made
                                                          inappropriately,
                                                          simply
                                                          apologize, and
                                                          we’ll move on,
                                                          and make an
                                                          effort not to
                                                          repeat them. 
                                                          No one here is
                                                          a paid
                                                          professional.
                                                          EVERYONE is
                                                          doing their
                                                          best to
                                                          promote the
                                                          hobby they
                                                          love.  We all
                                                          have opinions
                                                          (I’m clearly
                                                          expressing
                                                          mine), and we
                                                          won’t all
                                                          agree.    Just
                                                          remember that
                                                          board members
                                                          are elected to
                                                          voice the
                                                          opinions of
                                                          their ENTIRE
                                                          district,
                                                          which may
                                                          differ with
                                                          their own
                                                          personal
                                                          opinions.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>‘Nuff
                                                          whining on
                                                          that.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>Issue
                                                          2.   Sequences</b></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span><b>Lower
                                                          classes
                                                          </b>- Meant to
                                                          be the
                                                          Building
                                                          blocks for
                                                          Pattern.  Each
                                                          class having
                                                          increasing
                                                          difficulty,
                                                          measured
                                                          spacing in
                                                          complexity,
                                                          designed to
                                                          prepare the
                                                          pilot for the
                                                          next class.  
                                                          ALL classes
                                                          are potential
                                                          “Destination”
                                                          classes for a
                                                          variety of
                                                          reasons,
                                                          (Time, age,
                                                          interest,
                                                          talent, etc).
                                                            As such,
                                                          changing the
                                                          schedules
                                                          periodically
                                                          allows for
                                                          some variety
                                                          without moving
                                                          classes.   All
                                                          Good.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>But
                                                          that said,
                                                          creating all
                                                          new sequences
                                                          ever few years
                                                          is both a time
                                                          consuming
                                                          effort, and
                                                          requires
                                                          strict
                                                          discipline and
                                                          guidelines to
                                                          prevent
                                                          complexity
                                                          creep.  So my
                                                          suggestion is,
                                                          rather than a
                                                          new committee
                                                          making a new
                                                          set of
                                                          sequences
                                                          every few
                                                          years, that
                                                          instead, we
                                                          take the time
                                                          to create 3
                                                          sequences for
                                                          each class, an
                                                          A, B and C
                                                          pattern, which
                                                          would allow a
                                                          one time
                                                          effort to
                                                          produce
                                                          balanced,
                                                          thoughtful,
                                                          progressive
                                                          sequences that
                                                          would
                                                          effectively
                                                          create a 6
                                                          year cycle in
                                                          any class
                                                          before the
                                                          patterns
                                                          repeated
                                                          (assume you
                                                          flew each for
                                                          2 years). 
                                                          Even for the
                                                          perennial
                                                          Advanced
                                                          flyer, that’s
                                                          sufficient to
                                                          provide
                                                          challenge if
                                                          they truly are
                                                          unable to move
                                                          up.    As
                                                          always… My
                                                          $0.02</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span><b>MASTERS</b>.
                                                            This one I
                                                          have strong
                                                          opinions on so
                                                          bear with me. 
                                                          We have
                                                          numerous
                                                          issues to
                                                          solve…</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>*<span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span>Bored perennial Masters pilots that want ever increasing
                                                          complexity but
                                                          who lack the
                                                          desire to
                                                          attempt to fly
                                                          the F pattern
                                                          in FAI.   </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>*<span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span>An every increasing complexity gap as FAI continues to push the
                                                          boundaries of
                                                          what our
                                                          aircraft can
                                                          do</div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>*<span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">
</span>A dwindling FAI class due to that gap, and a Masters sequence
                                                          that does
                                                          little to
                                                          truly prep a
                                                          pilot for FAI</div>
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</span>Judging challenges, as ever increasing complexity in our routines
                                                          makes them
                                                          harder to
                                                          judge if
                                                          you’re not
                                                          intimately
                                                          familiar with
                                                          the sequence.</div>
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</span>Contest Logistics - Too many in one class, not enough in another
                                                          (typically
                                                          Masters vs
                                                          FAI)</div>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>In my
                                                          mind, ONE
                                                          thing fixes
                                                          all of this.  <b>Adopting
                                                          the P pattern
                                                          as our Masters
                                                          class
                                                          sequence.</b></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>In
                                                          the rest of
                                                          the world, The
                                                          P pattern IS
                                                          the pattern
                                                          for those not
                                                          flying the
                                                          full FAI
                                                          program.  
                                                          It’s designed
                                                          with that in
                                                          mind.  It’s
                                                          complex, but
                                                          very much on
                                                          par with our
                                                          typical
                                                          Masters
                                                          programs.  It
                                                          will challenge
                                                          those bored
                                                          pilots and
                                                          changes
                                                          reliably every
                                                          2 years with
                                                          NO effort!</div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>As
                                                          FAI adds new
                                                          maneuvers,
                                                          they put
                                                          components of
                                                          them into the
                                                          P pattern. 
                                                          More snaps,
                                                          some KE
                                                          segments,
                                                          introductory
                                                          integrated
                                                          rolling, etc.
                                                            Without
                                                          this, the gap
                                                          between FAI
                                                          and Masters
                                                          will continue
                                                          to widen,
                                                          making the
                                                          jump for all
                                                          but a few
                                                          virtually
                                                          impossible.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>By
                                                          flying the P
                                                          pattern for
                                                          the season,
                                                          should a
                                                          masters pilot
                                                          choose to try
                                                          FAI, they only
                                                          have one
                                                          additional
                                                          pattern to
                                                          learn.  It’s a
                                                          less daunting
                                                          exercise than
                                                          suddenly
                                                          having 2 new
                                                          sequences.  In
                                                          reverse,
                                                          should there
                                                          be limited FAI
                                                          participants
                                                          at a contest,
                                                          eliminating
                                                          the FAI class
                                                          for logistical
                                                          reasons allows
                                                          the one or two
                                                          FAI pilots to
                                                          simply fly
                                                          Masters at the
                                                          local event
                                                          and not have
                                                          it be a
                                                          complete
                                                          unknown.  Or
                                                          alternatively,
                                                          several of the
                                                          top Masters
                                                          pilots could
                                                          opt to fly
                                                          with the FAI
                                                          group, and
                                                          possibly agree
                                                          not to fly the
                                                          F sequence. 
                                                          Bottom line,
                                                          there are more
                                                          options.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Judging
                                                          - BOTH classes
                                                          benefit
                                                          tremendously
                                                          from improved
                                                          judging as
                                                          more people
                                                          will know the
                                                          nuances of the
                                                          sequence
                                                          they’re
                                                          judging as an
                                                          active flyer
                                                          of it.  No
                                                          more missed
                                                          zeros because
                                                          they don’t
                                                          know it.   </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7099832089004766151m_-1123793630591151519m_8632629812608526116x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span>There
                                                          are so many
                                                          reasons (ok,
                                                          in MY mind)
                                                          why this makes
                                                          sense that I
                                                          don’t really
                                                          understand the
                                                          opposition to
                                                          it.  Yes, the
                                                          FAI crew
                                                          throws in a
                                                          half
                                                          integrated
                                                          loop here and
                                                          there and I
                                                          know some are
                                                          deathly
                                                          opposed to
                                                          that.  I also
                                                          recall the
                                                          first time we
                                                          told masters
                                                          pilots to roll
                                                          both right AND
                                                          left… 1998. 
                                                          My world came
                                                          to an end. 
                                                          But we
                                                          learned.  Our
                                                          planes roll so
                                                          easily now by
                                                          comparison to
                                                          a curare that
                                                          we should
                                                          expect the
                                                          maneuvers to
                                                          advance with
                                                          them.  </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Ok, I’ll
                                                          get off my
                                                          soap box. 
                                                          These are MY
                                                          opinions.  I
                                                          think they’re
                                                          born from a
                                                          good deal of
                                                          experience,
                                                          but they’re
                                                          still just one
                                                          person’s
                                                          thoughts.   We
                                                          need to get
                                                          back to open
                                                          discussion,
                                                          survey’s, and
                                                          consensus.  
                                                          No, we won’t
                                                          please
                                                          everyone.  But
                                                          we do need to
                                                          please
                                                          “most”.  We
                                                          all love this
                                                          niche of the
                                                          hobby.  We all
                                                          want it to
                                                          grow.  We all
                                                          have good
                                                          intentions. 
                                                          Let’s go into
                                                          conversations
                                                          with that in
                                                          mind. </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>-Mark</div>
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