<div dir="ltr">It is THE University of Texas at Austin (My Alma-mater) that developed this tech and owns the rights.  They are in licensing talks with multiple companies.  I do not doubt that it will trickle down to us eventually unless materials are limited.<div><br></div><div>Peter+</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(0,0,255)">I make a motion that Mark Atwood pony up and get the licensing of this technology handled.  We're all behind you.  If TU (a Texas University not THE University of Texas) has the patent, it won't be cheap!  </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(0,0,255)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(0,0,255)"><span style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:600;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:charissilw,serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">For information on licensing this technology, or additional technology information, contact:</span><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:charissilw,serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"> </span><a href="mailto:bmerrick@otc.utexas.edu" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);text-decoration:none;color:rgb(160,68,0);font-family:charissilw,serif;font-size:18px" target="_blank">Betsy Merrick</a><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:charissilw,serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">, Office of Technology Commercialization, <a href="tel:(512)%20232-7699" value="+15122327699" target="_blank">(512) 232-7699</a>.</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_3587016023039545473gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><font style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="4">Scott A. McHarg</font></b><br><div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div><div>Texas A&M University</div><div>PPL - ASEL</div><div>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div style="word-wrap:break-word">
Maybe,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But if this is indeed true, you won’t be buying a 5s5000, but rather a 5s15000</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I’d pay $140 for that :)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But again, the article states overtly that the core materials used are more common substituting Sodium for Lithium.  So once the product becomes commoditized, you would expect the costs to actually be lower than todays batteries.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<b style="font-size:11pt;text-align:-webkit-auto"><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">MARK </span></b><b style="font-size:11pt;text-align:-webkit-auto"><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(128,189,1)">ATWOOD</span></b></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt">
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">o.  <a href="tel:(440)%20229-2502" value="+14402292502" target="_blank">(440) 229-2502</a><u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">c.  <a href="tel:(216)%20316-2489" value="+12163162489" target="_blank">(216) 316-2489</a><u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">e.  </span><a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com" style="font-size:11pt;text-align:-webkit-auto" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</span></a></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><br>
</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">Paragon Consulting, Inc.</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)"><u></u><u></u></span></b></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">5900 Landerbrook Drive, Suite 205, Cleveland Ohio, 44124<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="color:rgb(101,100,106)"><span style="color:rgb(101,100,106);font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" style="color:purple" target="_blank">www.paragon-inc.com</a></span></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:2pt;color:rgb(101,100,106)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" style="color:purple" target="_blank"></a><u><span style="color:rgb(101,100,106)"><u></u><u></u></span></u></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">Powering The Digital Experience</span></b></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span></div>
</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div>On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Matthew Finley <<a href="mailto:rcfin02@msn.com" target="_blank">rcfin02@msn.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768Apple-interchange-newline">
<div>

<div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div>Probably will be around $140 bucks for a single 5s 5000 pack.... I'm guessing </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div id="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768composer_signature">Matthew E Finley
<div>Q.C.I Technical Assistant</div>
<div><a href="tel:(248)%20794-8487" value="+12487948487" target="_blank">248-794-8487</a> mobile </div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: "Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>>
</div>
<div>Date: 3/8/17 10:34 AM (GMT-05:00) </div>
<div>To: Tom Stennis <<a href="mailto:tomstennis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomstennis@gmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>>
</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Lithium batteries news </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The article specifically mentions and 3X improvement in energy density, so that bodes extremely well for weight.  This almost feels too good to be true, but this group has led the path from the onset in battery technology, so there should certainly
 be optimism.  Just wonder what the time to market reality would be.
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
<span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<b style="font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">MARK </span></b><b style="font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(128,189,1)">ATWOOD</span></b></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt">
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">o.  <a href="tel:(440)%20229-2502" value="+14402292502" target="_blank">(440) 229-2502</a></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">c.  <a href="tel:(216)%20316-2489" value="+12163162489" target="_blank">(216) 316-2489</a></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">e.  </span><a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com" style="font-size:11pt" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</span></a></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><br>
</div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">Paragon Consulting, Inc.</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)"></span></b></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">5900 Landerbrook Drive, Suite 205, Cleveland Ohio, 44124</span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="color:rgb(101,100,106)"><span style="color:rgb(101,100,106);font-size:10pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" style="color:purple" target="_blank">www.paragon-inc.com</a></span></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-size:2pt;color:rgb(101,100,106)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" style="color:purple" target="_blank"></a><u><span style="color:rgb(101,100,106)"></span></u></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;color:rgb(101,100,106)">Powering The Digital Experience</span></b></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span></div>
</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div>On Mar 8, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Tom Stennis via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768Apple-interchange-newline">
<div>
<div dir="auto">
<div>Sounds good I wonder how the weight compares with the Lipo we now use<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 7, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">
<p class="MsoNormal m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"><span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,serif">Good news continues to come for those of us who use LiPo batteries. </span><u class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"></u></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI',sans-serif;color:rgb(22,29,39);background-color:white">A team from the University of Texas, led by 94-year-old
 John Goodenough has developed what is being called an </span><a href="http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2017/EE/C6EE02888H#!divAbstract" class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" target="_blank"><span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI',sans-serif;color:rgb(18,86,183);border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in;text-decoration:none">"all-solid-state"</span></a><span class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI',sans-serif;color:rgb(22,29,39);background-color:white"> lithium-i<wbr>on
 battery cell. Batteries constructed using the new technology are noncombustible, have a long cycle life, and boast much faster rates of charge and discharge.</span><u class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"></u></p>
<div class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">
<p class="MsoNormal m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"><u class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"></u> <u class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg"></u></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><a href="https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology" class="m_3587016023039545473m_5410467891570061768gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://news.utexas.edu/2017/0<wbr>2/28/goodenough-introduces-new<wbr>-battery-technology</a></p>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">-- <br>
</div>
<div>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br>
<span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br>
<span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.o<wbr>rg</a></span><br>
<span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.o<wbr>rg</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>

<br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.o<wbr>rg</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>
<br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/nsrca-<wbr>discussion</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Director, Fixed Wing Flight Training</div><div>Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark</div><div>Associate Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X</div><div>Treasurer, National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)</div><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6513778381_5569cc985d_m.jpg" width="200" height="154"><img src="https://googledrive.com/host/0B4LOPeyGAgOJUVJmU1dJMVl6WWc/AcademyModelAeronauticsLogo.png" width="200" height="136"><br></div></div></div></div>
</div>