<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">He already stated he had a dual pack regulator on there. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><font style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="4">Scott A. McHarg</font></b><br><div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div><div>Texas A&M University</div><div>PPL - ASEL</div><div>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Ronald Van Putte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vanputter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vanputter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Maybe you should mention that you need a voltage regulator on the two cells tapped off the low side of the 10S pack or you'll probably fry your receiver and maybe your servos. <div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class=""><div>On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_4516200317709265504Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div><span class=""><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">You're only 25 grams over and legal at that. One way to save 30 grams is to take out 1 rx battery pack and use the low side of the 10S pack and 2 of the cells (assuming you're running 2 5S packs) as your back up or primary based on what voltage you set for each one. Then, you're at 4995 grams. There are lighter packs out there but there's nothing wrong with the weight of what you have. This solution already gets you under 5000g and doesn't cost $1.00. You only need the wire and a balance connector of an old pack.</div></div></span><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><span class=""><div><div class="m_4516200317709265504gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><font style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="4">Scott A. McHarg</font></b><br><div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div><div>Texas A&M University</div><div>PPL - ASEL</div><div>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:25 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blotch44026@mypacks.net" target="_blank">blotch44026@mypacks.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br>I was just wondering what I could possibly do to remove some weight from an airplane (a good one) that hits the boundaries of our weight rules out-of-the-box? The arguments have been folks are using heavy motors, heavy wheels, heavy surface controls....etc. I placed the lightest components you can purchase and I am still knocking on the door. I am wondering what guys are doing? <br><br> <br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Scott McHarg <u></u>
<br>Sent: Jan 26, 2017 12:56 PM
<br>To: <a href="mailto:blotch44026@mypacks.net" target="_blank">blotch44026@mypacks.net</a>, General pattern discussion <u></u>
<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?
<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">Lest we forget, Sportsman - Advanced actually has 5165 grams which was increased 50 grams last year. Masters now has 5050 grams which was also adopted last year with the 1% tolerance. I was pro weight increase until we got the 1%. Now, I must agree with Dave L. and we did not see a growth in pattern with the additional weight added this last year. I'm not so sure we would with another increase.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">Although the USA has more pattern fliers than most, if not all other countries, most manufacturers do not build to our (AMA) specifications (although some are doing a great job of trying to give us "what we want"). Manufacturers, especially in a niche market) are going to build based on what can be sold to the whole world. Plugs and molds are very expensive to make, tooling is another story. Manufacturers and those designers that utilize manufacturers in other countries don't have an unlimited budget to have different variants of the same model when, in reality, a small number (from a manufacturing standpoint) will be sold as a whole. All this to say that we are an oddity. The rest of the world flies introductory classes as well but with the sole intent to finally be able to fly FAI. You actually have to earn that right in many places. This is why the 110-size class has come started to become popular in other parts of the world. Fly the 110's in the intro classes and then you can step up to your Formula 1 machine when you earn the right.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">A.R.F. aircraft have changed our hobby largely. We, as modelers (can we really be called this anymore) are holding manufacturers responsible for what we buy when we buy it. If it's overweight, it's their fault. When you build your own, only you are held accountable. You select the balsa, you decide and the glass cloth, paint, clear coat, etc. You actually take the time to make sure it is perfect. Now, we look for whatever the next guy is flying and decide that's what we're going to use too. We don't know what kind of work Dave L., AJ, etc. has put into their A.R.F., we just make the assumption that it was off the shelf so if he made weight, so should we.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">All just food for thought.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><font style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="4">Scott A. McHarg</font></b><br><div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div><div>Texas A&M University</div><div>PPL - ASEL</div><div>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:25 AM, blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I forgot to mention fuse weight included an Pletty Advanced<br><br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion <u></u>
<br>Sent: Jan 26, 2017 12:19 PM
<br>To: "Dr. Mike Harrison" <u></u>, General pattern discussion <u></u>, 'John Fuqua' <u></u>, 'General pattern discussion' <u></u>
<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?
<br><br><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></span><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span>Out of the box Invitation before any flights:<br><br>Fuse - 3115grams (weighed with Powerbox duel receiver reg, standard landing gear, Futaba BLS451 for Rudder, stab halves with Futaba 9650's and Castle ESC 80 light, along with Falcon carbon prop light and a Falcon carbon spinner)<br>Leftwing Panel - 359grams (wing weighed with Futaba S9551)<br>RightWing Panel - 361grams (wing weighed with Futaba S9551)<br>RX Batts - 2 TP 480mah - 60grams<br>WingTube - 51grams<br>Arming Plug 17grams<br>Total Weight = 3963<br><br>Compact 2 5000mah 1125grams <br><br>Total Flying Weight=5088grams<br><br>I could remove the Regulator and save 46grams<br><br>Total Flying Weight=5042grams<br><br>I could remove Arming plug<br><br>Total Flying Weight=5025grams<br><br>All of the equipment installed could be considered the higher end of the market...<br><br>500 flights and 2 landing gear repairs later - Well I have not bothered weighing it.<br><br>The plane does fly very well though...<br><br>Any thoughts?<br><br>Rick<br></span><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span><br><br>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: "Dr. Mike Harrison via NSRCA-discussion" <u></u>
<br>Sent: Jan 26, 2017 11:27 AM
<br></span><span>To: 'John Fuqua' <u></u>, 'General pattern discussion' <u></u>
<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?
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<u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></span><div class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108WordSection1"><span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">What I take away from here is that there are very good points by all. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_4516200317709265504_m_7231579638407554106_m_2252000872800478108__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p></span><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounc<wbr>es@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion<span><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>><br></span><span><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Agree totally. Weight is a false flag for Masters and FAI. It made some sense to raise the weight for the lower classes as they often fly pass down previously owned planes which tend to grow in weight as they are passed around.<u></u><u></u></span></p><span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">My fear has always been the law of unintended consequences when a radical change is made without fully appreciating the ingenuity of the pattern people. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></span><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounc<wbr>es@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-discussion<span><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:45 AM<br></span><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<span><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">IF all other things are equal, heavier does not fly better. The “IF” is rarely (if ever) considered by proponents of raising the weight limit.<u></u><u></u></span></p><span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">IF the added weight is used to increase power, size, or performance, it is an advantage that will raise the performance (and cost) and nothing changes except the cost has increased for everyone. The reason so many planes are close to the limits is because they have been designed for the greatest performance available within the limits, by pushing right up to the limits.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Most airplane designers have recommended equipment to complete the plane at or below the weight limit. The electric “pigs” that won’t make the weight limit are ALL the modern day large 2M planes when equipped with the heaviest motor, heaviest motor batteries, heaviest RX/servo power supply (dual redundant everything with 10 amp magnetic switches), heaviest servos, heaviest linkages, heaviest wheels, plethora of telemetry sensors, etc. Any airplane can be made overweight. If someone has the opinion it is ok to be less competitive for being overweight, being less competitive with a smaller plane that does make weight is pretty much the same scenario (but is legal to the letter of the rules).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I don’t think we get a lot of new people flying pattern at the NATs…which…in practice is the only contest where weight is checked. In the northeast US, any number of contests have advertised waivers of the weight limit, and in ~20 years, there have been very few overweight entrants, and I can’t think of any pattern converts as a result of waiving the weight limit.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dave<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></span><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounc<wbr>es@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Oscar via NSRCA-discussion<span><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Patternpilot One <<a href="mailto:patternpilot1@hotmail.com" target="_blank">patternpilot1@hotmail.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>><br></span><span><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif">😀😀😀</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><span><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></span><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><span><div><p class="MsoNormal">I see the potential for more people to fly pattern without the weight limit.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sa.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108composer_signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#364f67">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> <br>Date: 1/25/17 5:34 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: Whodaddy Whodaddy <<a href="mailto:whodaddy10@gmail.com" target="_blank">whodaddy10@gmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> <br></span><span>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle? <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hmmmm. No weight limit...<u></u><u></u></p></div><span><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I see a new market for a full 2M wing span on bi-planes sporting a YS-300DZ twin on the horizon... vbg<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108composer_signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></span><div><span><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>From: Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Date: 1/25/17 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00) <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>To: Jas S <<a href="mailto:justanotherflyr@gmail.com" target="_blank">justanotherflyr@gmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></span><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle? <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Not a fan of rule change for weight .. Cost is an obsolete argument blah blah blah ... Im well under with no extravagant $$$ or measures ... If manufacturers are building heavy components for their planes and that plane is overweight then dont buy the dang thing .. There is enough information as to the dews and donts to get planes under weight and wat planes leave the factory as over weight pigs... .. I you dont pay attention its ur fault u fly a pig ... Dont change the rules cause u refuse to pay attention ... <u></u><u></u></p></div><span><div id="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal">Nuff said<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal">G<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Jas S via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></span><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><span><div><p class="MsoNormal">There is one. The pilot with an 'over weight' can now compete at the Nats<br><br>Jas iP<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Jan 25, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></span><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><span><p class="MsoNormal">Come on now! How can hobby shops make some $$$ on a customer who needs to “buy some lightness” if the weight limit is thrown in the trash? <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I hope that all readers realize that my tongue was firmly in my cheek when I posted the above. There is no advantage in R/C aerobatic competition for a pilot to fly a heavy airplane.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ron Van Putte<u></u><u></u></p></div></span><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><span><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></span><div><div><span><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I think its time to throw the weight limit in the trash. There is nothing keeping anyone from voluntarily spending half of a paycheck to drop a few grams.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></span><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounc<wbr>es@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span></b>blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion<span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:56<br><b>To:</b><span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span>Joe Lachowski <<a href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">jlachow@hotmail.com</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr>org</span></a>><br></span><span><b>Subject:</b><span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">+1</span><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><span><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">-----Original Message-----<span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br>From: Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion<span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Sent: Jan 24, 2017 5:04 PM<span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br>To: General pattern discussion<span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<span class="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></span><div id="m_4516200317709265504m_7231579638407554106m_2252000872800478108divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Does anyone know when the next rules proposal cycle begins?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think it is time to stretch the weight limit to at least 4 ozs over 11 lbs. for electrics in ALL the AMA classes. Tired of paying the proverbial $100 and ounce to get there. Glow setups have an advantage. No doubt in my mind.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Flame on.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></span></div></blockquote></div></div><span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif;color:#954f72">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.o<wbr>rg</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif"><br></span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif;color:#954f72">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><u></u><u></u></p></span></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></blockquote><span><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.o<wbr>rg</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></span></div></blockquote><span><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.o<wbr>rg</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></span></div></div></blockquote><span><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.o<wbr>rg</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></span></div><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></blockquote></div><u></u><u></u>
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