<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think that’s a wonderful idea! <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m counting on you competing at the Nats in Blytheville and show us all how it’s done.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: ArialMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">How about this?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Club Class thru Advanced – Remove Weight Limit since nobody designs specifically for these classes and thus the 20lb. YS300DZ nightmare will never come true . .<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">. . . then . .<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Masters Class – Reduce weight limit from 11lbs. down to 9 lbs. - Since 11 lbs. is such a great idea, then knocking off another 2 lbs. should make it fantastic!!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:25 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Scott McHarg <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:blotch44026@mypacks.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">blotch44026@mypacks.net</a>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">I was just wondering what I could possibly do to remove some weight from an airplane (a good one) that hits the boundaries of our weight rules out-of-the-box? The arguments have been folks are using heavy motors, heavy wheels, heavy surface controls....etc. I placed the lightest components you can purchase and I am still knocking on the door. I am wondering what guys are doing?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">-----Original Message-----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">From: Scott McHarg<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: Jan 26, 2017 12:56 PM<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:blotch44026@mypacks.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">blotch44026@mypacks.net</a>, General pattern discussion<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: blue;" class="">Lest we forget, Sportsman - Advanced actually has 5165 grams which was increased 50 grams last year. Masters now has 5050 grams which was also adopted last year with the 1% tolerance. I was pro weight increase until we got the 1%. Now, I must agree with Dave L. and we did not see a growth in pattern with the additional weight added this last year. I'm not so sure we would with another increase.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: blue;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: blue;" class="">Although the USA has more pattern fliers than most, if not all other countries, most manufacturers do not build to our (AMA) specifications (although some are doing a great job of trying to give us "what we want"). Manufacturers, especially in a niche market) are going to build based on what can be sold to the whole world. Plugs and molds are very expensive to make, tooling is another story. Manufacturers and those designers that utilize manufacturers in other countries don't have an unlimited budget to have different variants of the same model when, in reality, a small number (from a manufacturing standpoint) will be sold as a whole. All this to say that we are an oddity. The rest of the world flies introductory classes as well but with the sole intent to finally be able to fly FAI. You actually have to earn that right in many places. This is why the 110-size class has come started to become popular in other parts of the world. Fly the 110's in the intro classes and then you can step up to your Formula 1 machine when you earn the right.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: blue;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: blue;" class="">A.R.F. aircraft have changed our hobby largely. We, as modelers (can we really be called this anymore) are holding manufacturers responsible for what we buy when we buy it. If it's overweight, it's their fault. When you build your own, only you are held accountable. You select the balsa, you decide and the glass cloth, paint, clear coat, etc. You actually take the time to make sure it is perfect. Now, we look for whatever the next guy is flying and decide that's what we're going to use too. We don't know what kind of work Dave L., AJ, etc. has put into their A.R.F., we just make the assumption that it was off the shelf so if he made weight, so should we.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: blue;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: blue;" class="">All just food for thought.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br clear="all" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" class="">Scott A. McHarg</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Texas A&M University<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">PPL - ASEL<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:25 AM, blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I forgot to mention fuse weight included an Pletty Advanced<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">-----Original Message-----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">From: blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: Jan 26, 2017 12:19 PM<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To: "Dr. Mike Harrison" , General pattern discussion , 'John Fuqua' , 'General pattern discussion'<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Out of the box Invitation before any flights:<br class=""><br class="">Fuse - 3115grams (weighed with Powerbox duel receiver reg, standard landing gear, Futaba BLS451 for Rudder, stab halves with Futaba 9650's and Castle ESC 80 light, along with Falcon carbon prop light and a Falcon carbon spinner)<br class="">Leftwing Panel - 359grams (wing weighed with Futaba S9551)<br class="">RightWing Panel - 361grams (wing weighed with Futaba S9551)<br class="">RX Batts - 2 TP 480mah - 60grams<br class="">WingTube - 51grams<br class="">Arming Plug 17grams<br class="">Total Weight = 3963<br class=""><br class="">Compact 2 5000mah 1125grams<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Total Flying Weight=5088grams<br class=""><br class="">I could remove the Regulator and save 46grams<br class=""><br class="">Total Flying Weight=5042grams<br class=""><br class="">I could remove Arming plug<br class=""><br class="">Total Flying Weight=5025grams<br class=""><br class="">All of the equipment installed could be considered the higher end of the market...<br class=""><br class="">500 flights and 2 landing gear repairs later - Well I have not bothered weighing it.<br class=""><br class="">The plane does fly very well though...<br class=""><br class="">Any thoughts?<br class=""><br class="">Rick<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">From: "Dr. Mike Harrison via NSRCA-discussion"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: Jan 26, 2017 11:27 AM<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To: 'John Fuqua' , 'General pattern discussion'<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">What I take away from here is that there are very good points by all. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a name="m_2252000872800478108__MailEndCompose" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></a><span class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:26 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Agree totally. Weight is a false flag for Masters and FAI. It made some sense to raise the weight for the lower classes as they often fly pass down previously owned planes which tend to grow in weight as they are passed around.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">My fear has always been the law of unintended consequences when a radical change is made without fully appreciating the ingenuity of the pattern people. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:45 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'General pattern discussion'<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">IF all other things are equal, heavier does not fly better. The “IF” is rarely (if ever) considered by proponents of raising the weight limit.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">IF the added weight is used to increase power, size, or performance, it is an advantage that will raise the performance (and cost) and nothing changes except the cost has increased for everyone. The reason so many planes are close to the limits is because they have been designed for the greatest performance available within the limits, by pushing right up to the limits.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Most airplane designers have recommended equipment to complete the plane at or below the weight limit. The electric “pigs” that won’t make the weight limit are ALL the modern day large 2M planes when equipped with the heaviest motor, heaviest motor batteries, heaviest RX/servo power supply (dual redundant everything with 10 amp magnetic switches), heaviest servos, heaviest linkages, heaviest wheels, plethora of telemetry sensors, etc. Any airplane can be made overweight. If someone has the opinion it is ok to be less competitive for being overweight, being less competitive with a smaller plane that does make weight is pretty much the same scenario (but is legal to the letter of the rules).</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I don’t think we get a lot of new people flying pattern at the NATs…which…in practice is the only contest where weight is checked. In the northeast US, any number of contests have advertised waivers of the weight limit, and in ~20 years, there have been very few overweight entrants, and I can’t think of any pattern converts as a result of waiving the weight limit.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Regards,</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dave</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Oscar via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:27 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Patternpilot One <<a href="mailto:patternpilot1@hotmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">patternpilot1@hotmail.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji', sans-serif;" class="">😀😀😀</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I see the potential for more people to fly pattern without the weight limit.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Sa.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="m_2252000872800478108composer_signature" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(54, 79, 103);" class="">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">-------- Original message --------<br class="">From: Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Date: 1/25/17 5:34 PM (GMT-05:00)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To: Whodaddy Whodaddy <<a href="mailto:whodaddy10@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">whodaddy10@gmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Hmmmm. No weight limit...<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I see a new market for a full 2M wing span on bi-planes sporting a YS-300DZ twin on the horizon... vbg<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="m_2252000872800478108composer_signature" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(87, 87, 87);" class="">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">-------- Original message --------<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">From: Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Date: 1/25/17 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">To: Jas S <<a href="mailto:justanotherflyr@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">justanotherflyr@gmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Not a fan of rule change for weight .. Cost is an obsolete argument blah blah blah ... Im well under with no extravagant $$$ or measures ... If manufacturers are building heavy components for their planes and that plane is overweight then dont buy the dang thing .. There is enough information as to the dews and donts to get planes under weight and wat planes leave the factory as over weight pigs... .. I you dont pay attention its ur fault u fly a pig ... Dont change the rules cause u refuse to pay attention ... <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Nuff said<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div id="m_2252000872800478108AppleMailSignature" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">G<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPhone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Jas S via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">There is one. The pilot with an 'over weight' can now compete at the Nats<br class=""><br class="">Jas iP<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">On Jan 25, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Come on now! How can hobby shops make some $$$ on a customer who needs to “buy some lightness” if the weight limit is thrown in the trash?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I hope that all readers realize that my tongue was firmly in my cheek when I posted the above. There is no advantage in R/C aerobatic competition for a pilot to fly a heavy airplane.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Ron Van Putte<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I think its time to throw the weight limit in the trash. There is nothing keeping anyone from voluntarily spending half of a paycheck to drop a few grams.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span></b>blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:56<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span>Joe Lachowski <<a href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">jlachow@hotmail.com</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">+1<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">-----Original Message-----<span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">From: Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion<span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: Jan 24, 2017 5:04 PM<span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To: General pattern discussion<span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<span class="m2252000872800478108apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_2252000872800478108divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Does anyone know when the next rules proposal cycle begins?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I think it is time to stretch the weight limit to at least 4 ozs over 11 lbs. for electrics in ALL the AMA classes. Tired of paying the proverbial $100 and ounce to get there. Glow setups have an advantage. No doubt in my mind.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Flame on.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; 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