<div>I assume that we don't mind to have AMA legal and F3A legal planes. Does this means that we could justify having more planes? I like the idea. </div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:28 AM Dr. Mike Harrison via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_3977480205795251000WordSection1 gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">What I take away from here is that there are very good points by all. <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><a name="m_3977480205795251000__MailEndCompose" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></a></p><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b class="gmail_msg">On Behalf Of </b>John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:26 AM<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">To:</b> 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span></p></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_3977480205795251000WordSection1 gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_3977480205795251000WordSection1 gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Agree totally. Weight is a false flag for Masters and FAI. It made some sense to raise the weight for the lower classes as they often fly pass down previously owned planes which tend to grow in weight as they are passed around.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">My fear has always been the law of unintended consequences when a radical change is made without fully appreciating the ingenuity of the pattern people. <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b class="gmail_msg">On Behalf Of </b>Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-discussion<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:45 AM<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">IF all other things are equal, heavier does not fly better. The “IF” is rarely (if ever) considered by proponents of raising the weight limit.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">IF the added weight is used to increase power, size, or performance, it is an advantage that will raise the performance (and cost) and nothing changes except the cost has increased for everyone. The reason so many planes are close to the limits is because they have been designed for the greatest performance available within the limits, by pushing right up to the limits.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Most airplane designers have recommended equipment to complete the plane at or below the weight limit. The electric “pigs” that won’t make the weight limit are ALL the modern day large 2M planes when equipped with the heaviest motor, heaviest motor batteries, heaviest RX/servo power supply (dual redundant everything with 10 amp magnetic switches), heaviest servos, heaviest linkages, heaviest wheels, plethora of telemetry sensors, etc. Any airplane can be made overweight. If someone has the opinion it is ok to be less competitive for being overweight, being less competitive with a smaller plane that does make weight is pretty much the same scenario (but is legal to the letter of the rules).<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">I don’t think we get a lot of new people flying pattern at the NATs…which…in practice is the only contest where weight is checked. In the northeast US, any number of contests have advertised waivers of the weight limit, and in ~20 years, there have been very few overweight entrants, and I can’t think of any pattern converts as a result of waiving the weight limit.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Regards,<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Dave<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b class="gmail_msg">On Behalf Of </b>Oscar via NSRCA-discussion<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:27 PM<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">To:</b> Patternpilot One <<a href="mailto:patternpilot1@hotmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">patternpilot1@hotmail.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">😀😀😀</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br class="gmail_msg">On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">I see the potential for more people to fly pattern without the weight limit.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Sa.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div id="m_3977480205795251000composer_signature" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#364f67" class="gmail_msg">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">-------- Original message --------<br class="gmail_msg">From: Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br class="gmail_msg">Date: 1/25/17 5:34 PM (GMT-05:00) <br class="gmail_msg">To: Whodaddy Whodaddy <<a href="mailto:whodaddy10@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">whodaddy10@gmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br class="gmail_msg">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle? <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Hmmmm. No weight limit...<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">I see a new market for a full 2M wing span on bi-planes sporting a YS-300DZ twin on the horizon... vbg<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div id="m_3977480205795251000composer_signature" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757" class="gmail_msg">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:black" class="gmail_msg">-------- Original message --------<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:black" class="gmail_msg">From: Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:black" class="gmail_msg">Date: 1/25/17 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00) <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:black" class="gmail_msg">To: Jas S <<a href="mailto:justanotherflyr@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">justanotherflyr@gmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:black" class="gmail_msg">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle? <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:black" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Not a fan of rule change for weight .. Cost is an obsolete argument blah blah blah ... Im well under with no extravagant $$$ or measures ... If manufacturers are building heavy components for their planes and that plane is overweight then dont buy the dang thing .. There is enough information as to the dews and donts to get planes under weight and wat planes leave the factory as over weight pigs... .. I you dont pay attention its ur fault u fly a pig ... Dont change the rules cause u refuse to pay attention ... <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div id="m_3977480205795251000AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div id="m_3977480205795251000AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Nuff said<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div id="m_3977480205795251000AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div id="m_3977480205795251000AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">G<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">Sent from my iPhone<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br class="gmail_msg">On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Jas S via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">There is one. The pilot with an 'over weight' can now compete at the Nats<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">Jas iP<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br class="gmail_msg">On Jan 25, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Come on now! How can hobby shops make some $$$ on a customer who needs to “buy some lightness” if the weight limit is thrown in the trash? <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">I hope that all readers realize that my tongue was firmly in my cheek when I posted the above. There is no advantage in R/C aerobatic competition for a pilot to fly a heavy airplane.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">Ron Van Putte<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">I think its time to throw the weight limit in the trash. There is nothing keeping anyone from voluntarily spending half of a paycheck to drop a few grams.</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg"> </span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b><span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72" class="gmail_msg">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span><b class="gmail_msg">On Behalf Of<span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span></b>blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b><span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span>Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:56<br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">To:</b><span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span>Joe Lachowski <<a href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72" class="gmail_msg">jlachow@hotmail.com</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72" class="gmail_msg">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72" class="gmail_msg">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Subject:</b><span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"> <u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">+1</span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">-----Original Message-----<span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg">From: Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion<span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg">Sent: Jan 24, 2017 5:04 PM<span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg">To: General pattern discussion<span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg">Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?<span class="m_3977480205795251000apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span></span><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div><div id="m_3977480205795251000divtagdefaultwrapper" class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">Does anyone know when the next rules proposal cycle begins?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">I think it is time to stretch the weight limit to at least 4 ozs over 11 lbs. for electrics in ALL the AMA classes. Tired of paying the proverbial $100 and ounce to get there. Glow setups have an advantage. No doubt in my mind.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">Flame on.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif" class="gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif" class="gmail_msg">_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class="gmail_msg"></span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif;color:#954f72" class="gmail_msg">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",serif;color:#954f72" class="gmail_msg">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><u class="gmail_msg"></u> <u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class="gmail_msg"><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class="gmail_msg"><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class="gmail_msg"><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class="gmail_msg"><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class="gmail_msg"><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class="gmail_msg"><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">
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