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<br>From: Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>
<br>Sent: Jan 26, 2017 12:22 PM
<br>To: Robert Campbell <rgc1701@gmail.com>, Jeff Worsham <jeffryworsham@gmail.com>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposal Cycle?
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<p>Maybe he can update it to include Masters instead of having to submit another proposal. Plane size will always be dictated by FAI. So I see no reason to restrict the AMA classes to the weight rule. I guarantee you most people flying AMA classes will have
their planes within a half a pound of the current limit anyway. Lets face it our planes are eggshells the way it is and if I could I would beef up areas like the landing gear structure. I can't count how many people in the AMA classes have ripped out landing
gear at a local contest.<br>
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As far as Sportsman goes I am a believer of fly anything you got or at least leave it to being at the Contest Directors discretion provided the requirements are spelled out in the Sanctioning documents.</p>
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<p>If anything FAI has made it more costly with the absurd maneuvers required to be flown which drives the complexity, shape and size of the airframes upwards along with the cost.<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Times New Roman">AMA website shows the following rules change proposal for 2018-19 already submitted by Curtis Oberg:</font>
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<p><font size="2" face="Times New Roman">"I propose that the current 5000 gram weight limit be eliminated for the Sportsman, Intermediate, and Advanced Classes."</font></p>
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<div dir="ltr">Or weigh fuel airplanes with FULL tanks. The FAI rule does specify TAKE-OFF weight may not exceed 5 kg. You can't take-off without fuel.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion
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<p>Does anyone know when the next rules proposal cycle begins?</p>
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<p>I think it is time to stretch the weight limit to at least 4 ozs over 11 lbs. for electrics in ALL the AMA classes. Tired of paying the proverbial $100 and ounce to get there. Glow setups have an advantage. No doubt in my mind.</p>
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<p>Flame on.<br>
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