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However you do need the mating connector to the balance connector on
the battery, not the balance connector off an old battery. <br>
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You are right! I missed that.
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<div class="">However, how about using dual 2S-850 LiFe packs and
a regulator would not be necessary.</div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Maybe you
should mention that you need a voltage regulator
on the two cells tapped off the low side of the
10S pack or you'll probably fry your receiver and
maybe your servos.
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only 25 grams over and legal at
that. One way to save 30 grams is
to take out 1 rx battery pack and
use the low side of the 10S pack and
2 of the cells (assuming you're
running 2 5S packs) as your back up
or primary based on what voltage you
set for each one. Then, you're at
4995 grams. There are lighter packs
out there but there's nothing wrong
with the weight of what you have.
This solution already gets you under
5000g and doesn't cost $1.00. You
only need the wire and a balance
connector of an old pack.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:25 PM, <span
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I was just wondering what I
could possibly do to remove
some weight from an airplane
(a good one) that hits the
boundaries of our weight
rules out-of-the-box? The
arguments have been folks
are using heavy motors,
heavy wheels, heavy surface
controls....etc. I placed
the lightest components you
can purchase and I am still
knocking on the door. I am
wondering what guys are
doing? <br class="">
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Sent: Jan 26, 2017 12:56
PM
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To: <a
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href="mailto:blotch44026@mypacks.net"
target="_blank" class="">blotch44026@mypacks.net</a>,
General pattern discussion
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Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules
Proposal Cycle?
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">Lest we forget,
Sportsman - Advanced
actually has 5165
grams which was
increased 50 grams
last year. Masters
now has 5050 grams
which was also adopted
last year with the 1%
tolerance. I was pro
weight increase until
we got the 1%. Now, I
must agree with Dave
L. and we did not see
a growth in pattern
with the additional
weight added this last
year. I'm not so sure
we would with another
increase.</div>
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<div
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">Although the USA has
more pattern fliers
than most, if not all
other countries, most
manufacturers do not
build to our (AMA)
specifications
(although some are
doing a great job of
trying to give us
"what we want").
Manufacturers,
especially in a niche
market) are going to
build based on what
can be sold to the
whole world. Plugs
and molds are very
expensive to make,
tooling is another
story. Manufacturers
and those designers
that utilize
manufacturers in other
countries don't have
an unlimited budget to
have different
variants of the same
model when, in
reality, a small
number (from a
manufacturing
standpoint) will be
sold as a whole. All
this to say that we
are an oddity. The
rest of the world
flies introductory
classes as well but
with the sole intent
to finally be able to
fly FAI. You actually
have to earn that
right in many places.
This is why the
110-size class has
come started to become
popular in other parts
of the world. Fly the
110's in the intro
classes and then you
can step up to your
Formula 1 machine when
you earn the right.</div>
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<div
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">A.R.F. aircraft have
changed our hobby
largely. We, as
modelers (can we
really be called this
anymore) are holding
manufacturers
responsible for what
we buy when we buy
it. If it's
overweight, it's their
fault. When you build
your own, only you are
held accountable. You
select the balsa, you
decide and the glass
cloth, paint, clear
coat, etc. You
actually take the time
to make sure it is
perfect. Now, we look
for whatever the next
guy is flying and
decide that's what
we're going to use
too. We don't know
what kind of work Dave
L., AJ, etc. has put
into their A.R.F., we
just make the
assumption that it was
off the shelf so if he
made weight, so should
we.</div>
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<div
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thought.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at
11:25 AM,
blotch44026--- via
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class="">I
forgot to
mention fuse
weight included
an Pletty
Advanced<br
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From:
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via
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Sent: Jan 26,
2017 12:19 PM
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To: "Dr. Mike
Harrison" ,
General
pattern
discussion ,
'John Fuqua' ,
'General
pattern
discussion' <br
class="">
Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
Rules Proposal
Cycle?
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<div
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class="">Out
of the box
Invitation
before any
flights:<br
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Fuse -
3115grams
(weighed with
Powerbox duel
receiver reg,
standard
landing gear,
Futaba BLS451
for Rudder,
stab halves
with Futaba
9650's and
Castle ESC 80
light, along
with Falcon
carbon prop
light and a
Falcon carbon
spinner)<br
class="">
Leftwing Panel
- 359grams
(wing weighed
with Futaba
S9551)<br
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RightWing
Panel -
361grams (wing
weighed with
Futaba S9551)<br
class="">
RX Batts - 2
TP 480mah -
60grams<br
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WingTube -
51grams<br
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Arming Plug
17grams<br
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Total Weight =
3963<br
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Compact 2
5000mah
1125grams <br
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Total Flying
Weight=5088grams<br
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I could remove
the Regulator
and save
46grams<br
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Total Flying
Weight=5042grams<br
class="">
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I could remove
Arming plug<br
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Total Flying
Weight=5025grams<br
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All of the
equipment
installed
could be
considered the
higher end of
the market...<br
class="">
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500 flights
and 2 landing
gear repairs
later - Well I
have not
bothered
weighing it.<br
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The plane does
fly very well
though...<br
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Any thoughts?<br
class="">
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Rick<br
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From: "Dr.
Mike Harrison
via
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Sent: Jan 26,
2017 11:27 AM
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class="">To:
'John Fuqua' ,
'General
pattern
discussion' <br
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[NSRCA-discussion]
Rules Proposal
Cycle?
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I take away
from here is
that there are
very good
points by
all. </span></p>
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<b class="">Sent:</b>
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January 26,
2017 8:26 AM<br
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pattern
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
class="">Agree
totally.
Weight is a
false flag for
Masters and
FAI. It
made some
sense to raise
the weight for
the lower
classes as
they often fly
pass down
previously
owned planes
which tend to
grow in weight
as they are
passed around.</span></p>
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class="">My
fear has
always been
the law of
unintended
consequences
when a radical
change is made
without fully
appreciating
the ingenuity
of the pattern
people. </span></p>
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[NSRCA-discussion]
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Cycle?</span></span></p>
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class="">IF
all other
things are
equal, heavier
does not fly
better. The
“IF” is rarely
(if ever)
considered by
proponents of
raising the
weight limit.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
class="">IF
the added
weight is used
to increase
power, size,
or
performance,
it is an
advantage that
will raise the
performance
(and cost) and
nothing
changes except
the cost has
increased for
everyone. The
reason so many
planes are
close to the
limits is
because they
have been
designed for
the greatest
performance
available
within the
limits, by
pushing right
up to the
limits.</span></p>
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class=""> </span></p>
<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
class="">Most
airplane
designers have
recommended
equipment to
complete the
plane at or
below the
weight limit.
The electric
“pigs” that
won’t make the
weight limit
are ALL the
modern day
large 2M
planes when
equipped with
the heaviest
motor,
heaviest motor
batteries,
heaviest
RX/servo power
supply (dual
redundant
everything
with 10 amp
magnetic
switches),
heaviest
servos,
heaviest
linkages,
heaviest
wheels,
plethora of
telemetry
sensors, etc.
Any airplane
can be made
overweight.
If someone has
the opinion it
is ok to be
less
competitive
for being
overweight,
being less
competitive
with a smaller
plane that
does make
weight is
pretty much
the same
scenario (but
is legal to
the letter of
the rules).</span></p>
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class=""> </span></p>
<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"
class="">I
don’t think we
get a lot of
new people
flying pattern
at the
NATs…which…in
practice is
the only
contest where
weight is
checked. In
the northeast
US, any number
of contests
have
advertised
waivers of the
weight limit,
and in ~20
years, there
have been very
few overweight
entrants, and
I can’t think
of any pattern
converts as a
result of
waiving the
weight limit.</span></p>
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see the
potential for
more people to
fly pattern
without the
weight limit.</p>
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No weight
limit...</p>
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see a new
market for a
full 2M wing
span on
bi-planes
sporting a
YS-300DZ twin
on the
horizon... vbg</p>
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<p
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a fan of rule
change for
weight .. Cost
is an obsolete
argument blah
blah blah ...
Im well under
with no
extravagant
$$$ or
measures ...
If
manufacturers
are building
heavy
components for
their planes
and that
plane is
overweight
then dont buy
the dang thing
.. There is
enough
information as
to the dews
and donts to
get planes
under weight
and wat planes
leave the
factory as
over weight
pigs... .. I
you dont pay
attention its
ur fault u fly
a pig ... Dont
change the
rules cause u
refuse to pay
attention ... </p>
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is one. The
pilot with an
'over weight'
can now
compete at the
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<p
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on now! How
can hobby
shops make
some $$$ on a
customer who
needs to “buy
some
lightness” if
the weight
limit is
thrown in the
trash? </p>
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readers
realize that
my tongue was
firmly in my
cheek when I
posted the
above. There
is no
advantage in
R/C aerobatic
competition
for a pilot to
fly a heavy
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class="">I
think its time
to throw the
weight limit
in the trash.
There is
nothing
keeping anyone
from
voluntarily
spending half
of a paycheck
to drop a few
grams.</span></p>
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anyone know
when the next
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class="">I
think it is
time to
stretch the
weight limit
to at least 4
ozs over 11
lbs. for
electrics in
ALL the AMA
classes. Tired
of paying the
proverbial
$100 and ounce
to get there.
Glow setups
have an
advantage. No
doubt in my
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