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John,<br>
I see what you mean.<br>
I'm not sure why no one ( including me) has submitted a rule change
to take Sportsman out of the supplemental class. How many years have
we included Sportsman at most or all local contests? Why do we need
a designation which defines Sportsman as a class whose only
difference is that it is specifically excluded from the Nats?<br>
<br>
John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/2017 3:01 PM, John Fuqua via
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is a provisional class. AMA does not support any
provisional classes at the Nats. SIGs can but AMA will
not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 20, 2017 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Website update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The new
website looks great and is a much better presentation of the
information we all need.<br>
<br>
After reading Mike's article on the Nats I have a couple of
comments.<br>
<br>
I like the idea of trying out an addition of Sportsman on a
trial basis although I'm not sure how we would fit in the
additional class in Muncie. Regarding the trophies, I would
provide the same trophies for Sportsman as any other class.
Getting the trophies from the AMA shouldn't be a problem as
Sportsman is an official AMA class. I don't see the point in
making the effort to include Sportsman and then making them
feel like second class citizens. I assume that the same
aircraft specification rules will be applied as everyone else.
No waiver for "fly what you brung"<br>
<br>
Second thought relates to holding a final for Intermediate and
Advanced. In the past there has been an acknowledged problem
in finding judges plus many of the competitors didn't want to
hang around the extra day. I suggest using the third day as a
combination of a final and the usual last two rounds for
non-finalists. The top 8 competitors would go into the finals
and fly two rounds. Best of the rounds would be used to
average with prelim average to establish the finalist order.
The remaining pilots would still be jockeying for their final
placing but could not beat out any finalist.<br>
<br>
Or everyone could fly all 6 rounds and then have a one round
sudden death flyoff of the top 8 places for final placing.<br>
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Point is that there are ways to provide a final for all
classes without undue strain on all concerned.<br>
<br>
John<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/20/2017 12:26 PM, Ronald Van Putte
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contest announcements that were just phased out. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looks great. Thanks Derek. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Only one suggestion. It will
be great to somehow allow pilots to tell the CDs
that they are planing to attend their contest.
I think is good for the CD and clubs to have
approximate head count to prepare for the
contest. Probably this has been discussed in
the pass and I forgot details. Also this helps
the CD to comunicate back to pilots in case of
sudden changes just before the contest. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:12
AM, Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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Rob,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Mike
Harrison’s info is there – it was put up a
couple of days ago. I’ll have Jon
Carter’s article up shortly…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks
for the feedback!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, January 20, 2017
at 7:34 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Anthony Romano <<a
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Website update</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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really like the new site. My favorite
feature is the way the links to upcoming
contests are displayed on the home page.<o:p></o:p></p>
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only negative comment I have is I
can't find the 2017 NATS info from
Mike Harrison and Jon Carter that
was on the old site. I expect that
will be fixed in a few days. But
then again, AMA doesn't have much on
the 2017 NATS yet either.<o:p></o:p></p>
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job on the new website!<o:p></o:p></p>
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everyone has had a chance to
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