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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hang in there. This problem will start to go away. We have a GOOD
President now! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert
Campbell via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Larry Diamond; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Growing Pattern for 2017 - Part 2 -
Culture - What are we missing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The entire hobby industry is in a down cycle. I read
on-line that Hobbico missed a profit sharing payment to its employees. My
LHS's business is down by a factor of SIX over just a few years ago. This
leads me to believe a large part of the problem is concerns over the
economy. Those who are unemployed and underemployed are not spending
money on the hobby because they don't have it. Those who are still
employed are cutting back on discretionary spending because they are concerned
over losing their jobs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Just my $0.02.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Larry Diamond via
NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Before
Christmas, I posted an email challenging our culture as a concern that prevents
or limits growth in pattern.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My
intent here is to spark discussion by offering my opinion, which is only an
opinion. A healthy debate on our culture as a SIG may be a good thing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
stated that our culture hasn’t changed since I joined the NSRCA in 2003.
Peter’s e-mail below and the Hardcopy K-Factor thread is a perfect example of
how our culture has not kept up with the times.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Peter’s
email below, and Ron Hansen’s, in the discussion ask a very basic question that
I don’t believe we as a whole have come to terms with:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What
is in it for “me” to be a member -and- participate in contests?</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is
too easy to say, “it’s the people… They aren’t willing to put in the time, they
aren’t willing to invest, they are not competative in nature…” </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For
me, that is not the answer to the problem. I’m not sold that this is the
reason. It is a symptom, but not the root-cause. The problem we face in growing
pattern is selling our product, “Pattern”. Yet, before we can sell our product,
we must understand what is it today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When
pattern was popular, it was because many of us were struck by somebody who was
flying pattern and “<b><u>we wanted to be one of them</u></b>”. I don’t see
this happening today other than hit and miss.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Culture…
Example… We want to take the hardcopy K-Factor away and only limit access to a
server base distribution mechanism that further limits our audience. Why?, to
save money for the NSRCA. I am perplexed and I say what??? Is not the NSRCA a
non-profit organization? Is increased membership not the most stable way to
generate funds? No?, its advertisers you say… Didn’t somebody state that we are
losing advertising dollars because the businesses are not seeing the benefit
from members? Is this concern not related to the NSRCA membership population as
a whole?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>From
my point of view, it is all connected to our culture.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My
recommendation is for the NSRCA Board to pull a committee together to address
the growth issue. We seem to discuss this every year. We also seem to hover
around the same membership population issues. Other than some select folks
giving a different spin at their contest, there is not much of a push.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am
a bit skeptical about the premise of another club class being the answer to the
growth problem. I am in agreement with those that believe that is why we have
the Sportsman class.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Only
my opinion, I could be wrong…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What
are your thoughts?????</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Larry
Diamond</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter
Vogel via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 5, 2017 3:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ron Hansen <<a href="mailto:rcpilot@wowway.com" target="_blank">rcpilot@wowway.com</a>>;
General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hardcopy K-Factor</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The
"What are the benefits" question comes up a lot. So much so,
that Charlie wrote an excellent article which you can find on the NSRCA.us web
site in the "new pilot info" section. The important stuff is
reproduced below:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>We are a Special Interest Group (SIG) in the AMA. <b>The NSRCA
advances our interests to the AMA</b>. The AMA represents all modelers
within the organization, but without our voice being heard, our segment
of the hobby would be forgotten, or at the very least not addressed. Many
of you who attend the Nationals (NATS) may not know that the AMA had
initially assigned the 2016 Precision Aerobatics NATS, to begin on July 5
th . Because of the 4 th of July holiday, and because of the usual travel
involved by many to attend the NATS, this date was not acceptable. The
NSRCA immediately protested, and the contest date was changed to July
10th. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Our purpose is best stated by the following:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><strong><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#3366FF'>“a. Act as a focal point for
rules development and progression. Gather intelligence from the
AMA precision aerobatics community to provide the basis for AMA rules
change proposals.” </span></i></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>You may recall that last year the NSRCA made rules change
proposals to the AMA, concerning telemetry, safety, specifically, electric
motor arming, transmitter impound, transmitter failsafe, and weight.
These rule changes were accepted by the AMA. These changes enhanced the
safety of flying precision aerobatics.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><strong><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#3366FF'>“ b. Promote precision
aerobatics in the general R/C community by providing leadership in all
of the objectives of the society."</span></i></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><strong><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#3366FF'>" c. Enhance model
precision aerobatics as a recognized sport."</span></i></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><strong><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#3366FF'>" d. Develop and
provide high standards in judging for competitions and provide qualifications and achievement
recognition for judges.” </span></i></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>The <b>NSRCA sets standards for judging</b>. Judging precision
aerobatics in District 1 is the same as in District 7. It is through the
NSRCA judging committee that the yearly judging review is published.
Judging recertification is free to members. (Of course non-members can
also certify for a nominal fee.) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333'>The KFactor magazine</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333'> –
The KFactor is the identity of the NSRCA. It is published once a month. It is
the life blood of your pattern community. The magazine can be downloaded
directly from the web site, or mailed directly to you. The advent of
digital download has greatly decreased publication costs. And because of
this digital capability, our editor, Scott McHarg, has delivered the KFactor on
time for several years. If it’s April 1st , the KFactor is
available! </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>There are many interesting articles in the KFactor, whether how
to build a particular pattern plane, or how to paint, or which color is
best suited for good visibility. The KFactor also provides a means by which
your DVP’s can communicate with their district members. Yes, they usually
publish contest results as part of their reports. However, contest schedules
are published before the beginning of the season. They may also offer a
building article from time to time. If you have an interesting article
that you would like to share with your pattern buddies, submit it to
your respective DVP for publications. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:3.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333'>The NSRCA web page</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333'> –
The </span><a href="http://nsrca.us" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>nsrca.us</span></a><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333'> web
page is your source for nformation in our pattern community. It offers
contest results, KFactor access, sequences, judging, district news, and links
to industry manufacturers. Your Board of Directors are in discussions on
how to enhance our web page, and make it easier to navigate. Also, it has
been suggested that a separate link on the web site be dedicated only
to building articles. These articles will remain in this location
indefinitely, for reference by our members. So, in summary, it is to your
advantage to join (renew) your membership in the NSRCA. As you can
see, there is a lot “in it for me”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What
are the benefits of being a NSRCA member?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You
don’t need to be a member to participate in contests?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
originally joined to get the Buyers Guide and the K-Factor.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
didn’t start competing for several years after that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Couple
of ideas I have is to go to quarterly newsletters and change our model for
advertisers. Perhaps each issue has coupons rather than just
advertisements. This would give companies feedback on how many people
read and buy products advertised in the K-Factor and our website.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion
[mailto:</span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James
Hiller via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hardcopy K-Factor</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Wow: I spent
many years sitting in a desk chair in front of a PC. I'm happy<br>
with reading the K-Factor on my monitor.<br>
Paramount to my continuing is the notice Scott sends every month telling me<br>
it's ready for download. I save them in a folder and leave them open until<br>
I'm finished reading them, sometimes as long as 10 days.<br>
I wouldn't like to see a dues increase to cover hard copy cost for those<br>
that still want it and agree that a free copy may reduce membership.<br>
I'm here for the long run regardless of what is decided.<br>
Jim Hiller<br>
Spokane WA<br>
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From: NSRCA-discussion [</span><a
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>] On<br>
Behalf Of Tom Simes via NSRCA-discussion<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 2:53 PM<br>
To: General pattern discussion<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hardcopy K-Factor<br>
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On 01/04/17 12:37, David Harmon wrote:<br>
> Tom...that is an interesting twist that I had not considered....but<br>
> then I have always been a proponent of a 'members only' email list.<br>
> However....I like the idea of letting other modelers know of our long<br>
> term existence....but not to give away the farm.<br>
> Perhaps a second email list for NSRCA members could be considered for<br>
> K-F push distribution only....keeping the open 'chat' list as it is<br>
> that does not support attachments.<br>
<br>
As far as list server support, I'm more than happy to accommodate whatever<br>
the community and BoD decides to do. A minor point of clarification, the<br>
current NSRCA list configuration does allow attachments, but is size limited<br>
to 500 KB per message per community request. Note that the request dates<br>
from when dialup was still common and people didn't want to wait 10 minutes<br>
to download a single message.<br>
<br>
That limit is easily configurable and I would have no issue bumping it up to<br>
allow low resolution .pdf distribution of the K Factor either on the<br>
existing -discussion list or on a dedicated list for K Factor distribution.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Tom<br>
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- Error message on XENIX v3.0<br>
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