<html><body><div style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div>So a print run of 150 costs $1000...or $6.67 per issue? That would be a pretty hefty premium for a 'hard copy' membership.</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>To: </b>"Mark Atwood" <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com>, "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:41:36 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hardcopy K-Factor<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;">The cost changes based on how big the issue is and how many we print. We mail out approximately 135 monthly. I usually print 150 copies so that I have extras to go to the show in Ontario and the WRAM show to be distributed. As an example, a 20 page (we usually run between 20-26 pages) K-Factor, printed and mailed out to 135 people is just over $1000. The bigger the issue, the more likely it is to get to about $1200 for that issue. When we were mailing out 400+ copies, you can imagine how much money it was costing us monthly.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;">The problem with the list serv is that there are quite a few folks that are not members that would be receiving your K-Factor. Of course, it'd be easy enough to create a new list with members only but that's just something else to consider. The mailing would be fairly large as well. The "low res" copy is about 4.5Mb. The "high res" version would be difficult to mail out due to SPAM definitions and size issues for each mail service that we all use. Most don't allow attachments that large but some do.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" data-mce-style="color: #3333ff;"><span data-mce-style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: large;" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: large;" size="4">Scott A. McHarg</span></b><br><div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div><div>Texas A&M University</div><div>PPL - ASEL</div><div>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" data-mce-style="word-wrap: break-word;">Can we quantify the costs for the printed version? I for one would be willing to pay and additional “subscription fee” for getting a printed version, provided it was even remotely reasonable.<div><br></div><div>Are we talking an addition $5/issue, or $25/issue. I honestly don’t know what it costs to print, and how much is currently subsidized by the NSRCA vs Advertisers.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" data-mce-style="color: #000000; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" data-mce-style="color: #000000; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" data-mce-style="color: #000000; 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font-family: Lato,sans-serif; color: #65646a;">Powering The Digital Experience</span></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div><div>On Jan 4, 2017, at 3:04 PM, David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-1061574609693191102Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="m_-1061574609693191102WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" data-mce-style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Comic Sans MS';color:rgb(31,73,125)" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #1f497d;">Regarding the ‘push’ comments…..How about sending the existing K-F .pdf over the list server?<span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Comic Sans MS';color:rgb(31,73,125)" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #1f497d;">The downside of this is perhaps the listserver s/w will not support an attachment….it might be an option though.<span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Comic Sans MS';color:rgb(31,73,125)" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #1f497d;">Bandwidth might be a problem and incur increased costs for the b/w….but this might be offset by reducing the remaining printing expense.<span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Comic Sans MS';color:rgb(31,73,125)" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #1f497d;">Or….perhaps changing the format/extension to something other than .pdf to help reduce b/w requirements.<span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;" style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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