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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 14, 2016 12:27 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=burtona@atmc.net>Dave Burton</A> ; <A
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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meters by two meters is constrained by wingspan and fuse length aka x and y
axis. What the 2M rule doesn't take into consideration is the z
axis. Have you not noticed the gain in fuselage height?</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Dave Burton via
NSRCA-discussion <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Let's
cut cost and increase participation by reducing to 8S rather than 12S.
Airplanes will be smaller and cheaper, batteries will be cheaper, and we won't
have to worry about the weight limit. We won't have to worry about the
2M biplanes that will be bigger (the logic of that argument about the
weight limit gives me a migraine trying to understand how 2 meters becomes
bigger).<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:<A target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-<WBR>bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill Pritchett via NSRCA-discussion<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Monday, November 14, 2016 12:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Atwood, Mark; Andrew Jesky;
General pattern discussion; General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Adding
the option of 12S is about efficiency, being nice to your batteries....
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"Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion" <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<WBR>org</A>><BR><B>To:</B>
Andrew Jesky <<A target=_blank>andrewjesky@gmail.com</A>>; General
pattern discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<WBR>org</A>> <BR><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, November 11, 2016 5:28 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
12S for F3A</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>To Andrew’s point,
power is already unlimited in our rules. Glow is not constrained, only
E-power. So while normally I’m a staunch opponent to any rule change
that will alter the designs of our planes and thus obsolete everything and
increase costs, I don’t think supporting 12S does that.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
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currently limited, so allowing 12s doesn’t change the available power.
It merely allows those flying electric to do so more efficiently. And
yes… A YS200 will likely support even larger Bipes if they can build
them and make weight.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<<A>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<WBR>org</A>>
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cap the wattage we can reach, But don't worry when YS comes out with there 200
that won't allow the pattern planes to grow as long as there under 5000
without fuel right? 🤔<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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