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<DIV aria-label="Compose body">We have several decades of history showing that path.</DIV>
<DIV aria-label="Compose body"><BR>Wasn't there a long thread a few days ago stirring ideas to increase pattern participation?</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't think the issue is about what's required. I read it as the exploitation of a 12s rule that will result in design changes and drive cost higher as the hunt continues to gain a competitive advantage . </DIV>
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<DIV>Date: 11/11/16 10:51 AM (GMT-06:00)</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I'm not understanding what significant design changes would be required to the airframe to take advantage of this change?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">-------- Original message --------<BR>From: Jeff and Claire via NSRCA-discussion <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> <BR>Date: 11/10/16 12:38 PM (GMT-06:00) <BR>To: 'Bill Pritchett' <<A href="mailto:billpritch@yahoo.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:billpritch@yahoo.com">billpritch@yahoo.com</A>>, 'General pattern discussion' <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>, 'Andrew Jesky' <<A href="mailto:andrewjesky@gmail.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:andrewjesky@gmail.com">andrewjesky@gmail.com</A>>, 'Keith Hoard' <<A href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com">klhoard@outlook.com</A>> <BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A <SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></SPAN><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white" data-mce-style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><SPAN style='FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black' data-mce-style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 9.5pt;"><BR>On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></SPAN><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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