<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #800080"><div>Is it called a Prius, Keith??  LOL<br></div><div><br></div><div><span name="x"></span><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><div style="text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span style="color: #8b8b8b;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: 12px;"><span style="font-size: 11px;"><span style="font-size: 10px;"><span><em><strong><span style="font-size: 14px;"> Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus</span style="font-size: 14px;"></strong></em></span><em><strong><br><span style="font-size: 14px;"> AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member<br><span style="font-size: 14px;"> SPA L-18, Board Member<br><span style="font-size: 14px;"> Oliver Springs, TN  (865) 435-1476v  (865) 604-0541c</span style="font-size: 14px;"></span style="font-size: 14px;"></span style="font-size: 14px;"></strong></em><br><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span style="font-size: 10px;"></span style="font-size: 11px;"></span style="font-size: 12px;"></span style="font-size: 13px;"></span style="color: #8b8b8b;"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></div style="text-align: left;"></div style="text-align: center;"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"></span class="signature-truncate"><span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><style><!--

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--></style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Wait till y’all see my 75S-350Mah setup . . . </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-Keith Hoard</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-klhoard@outlook.com</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 11, 2016 15:15<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">No!  We can’t use 12S battery packs.  We can’t be trusted around 12S battery packs!  We are being protected from ourselves.  Just do what you’re told and everything will be fine.  </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">RVP</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 11, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Why not just get rid of the battery size requirement, then you don’t have to worry about it.  (Same with weight) <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Once we’ve all invested in new 12S equipment (or quit pattern), then 14S will become all the rage.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Perhaps some of y’all missed it this week, but the wave of the future is less regulation, not more.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-Keith Hoard</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">klhoard@outlook.com</span></a></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 11, 2016 12:39<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"ArialMS",s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</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I'm not understanding what significant design changes would be required to the airframe to take advantage of this change?</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:<br></span></p><div><br></div><br><p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I don’t understand how this rule change won’t affect the AMA classes.  Most planes are designed to satisfy FAI not masters.  So all future planes designed would be around 12S rather than 10S making the plane selection for AMA even smaller.  This could also result in longer more complicated sequences.  Bad idea unless we are going to make the same change for AMA classes. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ron</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>cahochhalter via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:51 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff and Claire; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Yes, but we need fai to pass it first, then get ama to approve.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538composer_signature"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#364F67">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">-------- Original message --------<br>From: Jeff and Claire via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Date: 11/10/16 12:38 PM (GMT-06:00)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>To: 'Bill Pritchett' <<a href="mailto:billpritch@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">billpritch@yahoo.com</span></a>>, 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>>, 'Andrew Jesky' <<a href="mailto:andrewjesky@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">andrewjesky@gmail.com</span></a>>, 'Keith Hoard' <<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">klhoard@outlook.com</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Looks like there would need to be a rule change to run 12s in an AMA class.  Current rule says "Electrically-powered model aircraft are limited to a maximum of 42.56 volts..."</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jeff Worsham</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Bill Pritchett via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Andrew Jesky; Keith Hoard; General pattern discussion; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17213"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I think a source of universal pride among the pattern community is the positive ripple effect that development of our gear over the years has provided the entire model aviation community.  This discussion is simply about the continued development of a power system...the evolution of electric power.  I don't think this would have any significant real or implied effect on any AMA class.  On the other hand, those that choose to try something new no doubt will - that's how it's always worked.  How many folks in AMA classes fly YS-185s?  That's a choice available to all of us right now.....  Our 10S setup is great and should/will continue to be the standard for a long, long time - yet not a reason to stifle development.</span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17224"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Bill</span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_16961"><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Andrew Jesky via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Keith Hoard <<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">klhoard@outlook.com</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:10 PM<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A</span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yqtfd20498"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_16949"><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_16959"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">By changing the KV to spin the same prop at the same rpm as the 10 cell setup there isn't much that changes in the feel. I have hundreds of flights on the 12s setup, and the power output is no different as well as the torque. Heck if anyone wants to try the 12 cell setup and has there model setup for a Q80xs let me know. I'd be more than happy to let you see what you think. </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_16958"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_16957"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Andrew </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_16948"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17157"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17085"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17084"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Sent from my iPhone</span></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17049"><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yiv3933183842yqtfd95302"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br>On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17052"><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17187"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I think it takes more than 12S to do that, Chuck . . .</span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17051"><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17054"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17050"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">-Keith Hoard</span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17083"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">-<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">klhoard@outlook.com</span></a></span></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17055"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17146"><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17145"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">. .. [snip].. . .</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:red"> </span></span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:red">Kv is easily adjusted by changing the wind.</span></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17143"><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17142"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:red"> </span></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-1159301285599178538yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478786687267_17059"><div id="m_-115930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