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Chuck,<br>
If it's important to you, write up an Rules Change proposal for the
AMA rulebook.<br>
No need to wait for the FAI in order for the Contest Board to
address this.<br>
John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2016 11:51 AM, cahochhalter
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<div>Yes, but we need fai to pass it first, then get ama to
approve.</div>
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From: Jeff and Claire via NSRCA-discussion
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Date: 11/10/16 12:38 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>
To: 'Bill Pritchett' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:billpritch@yahoo.com"><billpritch@yahoo.com></a>, 'General
pattern discussion' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a>,
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Looks
like there would need to be a rule change to run 12s in an
AMA class. Current rule says "Electrically-powered model
aircraft are limited to a maximum of 42.56 volts..."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Jeff
Worsham<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Bill Pritchett via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Jesky; Keith Hoard; General pattern
discussion; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;color:black">I think a source of
universal pride among the pattern community is the
positive ripple effect that development of our gear over
the years has provided the entire model aviation
community. This discussion is simply about the
continued development of a power system...the evolution
of electric power. I don't think this would have any
significant real or implied effect on any AMA class. On
the other hand, those that choose to try something
new no doubt will - that's how it's always worked. How
many folks in AMA classes fly YS-185s? That's a choice
available to all of us right now..... Our 10S setup is
great and should/will continue to be the standard for a
long, long time - yet not a reason to stifle
development.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
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Andrew Jesky via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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<b>To:</b> Keith Hoard <<a
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:10 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12S for F3A</span><span
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style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">By
changing the KV to spin the same prop at the
same rpm as the 10 cell setup there isn't
much that changes in the feel. I have
hundreds of flights on the 12s setup, and
the power output is no different as well as
the torque. Heck if anyone wants to try the
12 cell setup and has there model setup for
a Q80xs let me know. I'd be more than happy
to let you see what you think. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Keith Hoard
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think it takes more than 12S to do that,
Chuck . . .</span><span
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Kv is easily adjusted by changing the
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