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IF you take that approach, I would write the proposal in such a way that “AMA will follow FAI’s rulebook guidelines for maximum voltage allowance” or some such wording, so that if adopted, it automatically follows the FAI rule.
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<div class="">On Nov 10, 2016, at 2:46 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class="">I think a source of universal pride among the pattern community is the positive ripple effect that development of our gear over the years has provided the entire model aviation
community. This discussion is simply about the continued development of a power system...the evolution of electric power. I don't think this would have any significant real or implied effect on any AMA class. On the other hand, those that choose to try
something new no doubt will - that's how it's always worked. How many folks in AMA classes fly YS-185s? That's a choice available to all of us right now..... Our 10S setup is great and should/will continue to be the standard for a long, long time - yet
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of flights on the 12s setup, and the power output is no different as well as the torque. Heck if anyone wants to try the 12 cell setup and has there model setup for a Q80xs let me know. I'd be more than happy to let you see what you think. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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