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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>How about big cash prizes. The AMA just hosted a drone racing league championship which paid $10,000. Of course I do not know where the money will come from but cash has a certain quality that brings in the people.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Larry and Eileen; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have to admit this resonates a lot. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a local flyer who you would think is ALL IN for pattern. He flies a full 2 meter plane (Spark Evo) and has a backup 2M. He practices 3-4 days a week including most Saturdays and Sundays. Over the past 3 years he’s progressed nicely through the Sportsman, Intermediate and now Advanced sequences. He currently flies advanced quite competitively (In my opinion). He ONLY flies pattern. Every flight is either a complete sequence or working on elements of the sequence with my help. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>HE HAS NEVER BEEN TO A CONTEST. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve tried for several years to entice him to participate. He’s NOT afraid of competition, quite the opposite, he’s a former national level competitive archer. That’s really his main attraction to pattern…the pursuit of perfection. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But getting away from home for the whole weekend, combined with travel and hotel costs, are more than he’s willing to do. I’m confident I will eventually get him to a contest, likely one of the closer ones, at least for a day. But it’s unlikely he’ll ever be “on the tour”.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’m not sure there’s a solution to this particular problem. Not without a fundamental change to our execution of the sport.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-M<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#65646A'>MARK </span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#80BD01'>ATWOOD</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#65646A'>o. (440) 229-2502</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#65646A'>c. 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Let me say that while I fly through the Intermediate sequence with a pattern airplane regularly, I don’t compete. I am not a pattern flier. The main reason I don’t is because I won’t commit to the time and money needed to travel to a different location in the Pacific Northwest every other weekend through the season. Either my wife gets to live out of a suitcase each Summer, or we are split apart during those times. Not my idea of retirement. Quite patting yourselves on the back by stating how hard the pattern sequence is, because that is not the reason few want to get deeply involved in Pattern. I’ve had several D-8 guys tell me how much they spend attending the scheduled events for a season. Now I’m not saying “it costs too much” to travel “the circuit”. We all decide how much is too much. I am saying when you add together the real total costs, and time requirements (6-8, maybe 10 weekends a season) you reduce the number of people that want to make these types of commitments. Getting someone to fly and practice is not that hard. We have 3-4 guys doing it here (not “pattern guys” yet) to become better pilots. Will any of them start flying at other D-8 locations? I doubt it. Takes too much time. I think “Pattern” is almost a life style. It is a part of a hobby that requires a large and continuing commitment. Can anyone join this segment of the RC hobby? No, not everyone, but many can. But most aren’t willing to disrupt their families for a hobby to the extent needed to compete. I know many hobbies have similar time and money costs, and most people won’t get involved in them either. Similar issues face the thermal duration glider competition folks too.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Larry Fitch</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>West Richland, WA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:44 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>That’s correct John….but back then there were….let’s say….60 entrants to almost every contest.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>These days with electric power….noise is no longer a concern.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>I think our problem is to a large extent….the difficulty of flying Pattern.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Let’s face it guys….flying Pattern is DIFFICULT.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>It takes dedication….you cannot just buy your way into the event with hardware and be successful.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Years ago….there were no ARF’s…..a Pattern style airplane had to be built…..then you had to learn to fly it…if you could get the engine to run.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>This was difficult to say the least…..but the Patterns were much easier than today.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Today the situation is totally reversed.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>E-power is like a light switch…..it runs perfect every time and when you shut it off there is no maintenance.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>There are no Pattern kits that I know of…..so most of us fly ARF airplanes that are better than most guys can build.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Today the emphasis is on flying…..not messing around with the hardware.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>This is where the modern day ‘difficult’ part comes in.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Pattern maneuvers are just too damn difficult for new entrants to make the jump to the event….even if they already sport fly….attracting non-modelers is a non-starter.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>This is the main reason that in my opinion…..the NSRCA should make all AMA classes non-turnaround or at least classes lower than Masters.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Pattern has to be made ‘do-able’ for existing flyers…..</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>We need to show these sport flyers that they can actually fly the maneuvers the first time out and that they can quickly build skill and take home some wood.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>That will let many flyers become encouraged enough to get started and stay engaged and perhaps become skilled enough to howl with the big dawgs in FAI.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>For the guys that want to have a continuous challenge to their skills….let them fly FAI….that should keep them busy for a while.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>We cannot just keep on doing the same old same old…….</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Something….anything….needs to be tried to get new entrants and retain existing pilots.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>David Harmon</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Sperry, OK</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I always thought the reason why we went to turnaround Pattern in the first place was to reduce our “footprint” and to minimize noise. This was back when we had 60’s and tuned pipes (the good old days) Now that the average Pattern plane makes less noise than a freaking butterfly I guess it could become an option (no turnarounds) but I don’t think that’s necessary.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One thing that we tried in D1 was to have an informal / loosely judged competition with small electric planes. We opened this to ANYONE although I don’t think any nn Pattern pilots ever entered. It was fun but we stopped doing it.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>See the REAL “problem” is that, as you said, we’re losing people faster than we’re attracting new ones. Just retaining people is good and certainly necessary but it just stops the bleeding. You DO need to get new people interested but as I’ve said that’s about 1 out of every 10 that has just learned to fly.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><image001.png></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:38 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'Scott McHarg'; 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Even if we are recognized……the interested person is likely going to be a modeler who already is aware of Pattern.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>I don’t think any assets or time should be wasted in trying to get non-modelers-flyers interested in Pattern.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>As others have said…it’s booooring…like watching paint dry.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>There are plenty of modelers who already know how to fly but are never going to try Pattern.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>In the past….retaining flyers is a larger problem than attracting new flyers.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Over the years the entry count dwindled to what it is now….extremely low.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Why???</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>There are a lot of reasons but in my opinion….the most prominent are…..</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Turnaround style of maneuvers.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Ever increasing difficulty of maneuvers.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Some clubs resistance to an event that locks up the field for 2 days……or even 1 day….for a crummy $50 or so donation to the club from entry fee residue.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>As others have repeatedly said…..expense. I really don’t buy this because Pattern has ALWAYS been expensive…this is nothing new.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>If a club flyer is interested enough to try Pattern….he will find a way to justify the expense.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>The same flyers always win, place or show.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>After years of trying…many flyers drop out because they know they do not have a chance of taking home any wood….yes, I know, practice more….true to a point.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Judging…..well…..we all know about this subject….but I know this causes many flyers to drop out.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>All of this is nothing new….it has been hashed over hundreds of times….but as Scott said….nothing keeps on happening.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>I think that the NSRCA should try something radically new….like change all classes below Masters to non-Turnaround maneuvers.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Fly what you bring….up to 30 lbs.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Remove all integrated maneuvers from Masters class.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Have radically fewer contests in an effort to get the entrant count much higher at each contest as a way to help club members justify a non-flying weekend.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Hopefully a large crowd will attract club members to Pattern……6 guys flying for two days ain’t gonna attract anything but hard feelings from club members who just want to fly their stick.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>If changes similar to the above could be tried….perhaps club members should be allowed to sport fly along with the contestants.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>This at the least would remove the club members ‘lost weekend’ and perhaps change the attitude of some clubs.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>David Harmon</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Sperry, OK</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, September 19, 2016 4:14 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Atwood, Mark <<a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com"><span style='color:purple'>atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</span></a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue'>The original reason I posted this is because we need to really "do something" to actually get people to recognize us. DRL got ESPN and, while there is an obvious attraction to this by young and old, they started from something and somewhere. Do we need ESPN? While nice, the answer is no. I wanted to show all of us that this is what is attracting potential pilots and, for that matter, getting the notoriety. The discussion is usually "why is this happening" instead of what can we do to "Be like Mike" (in this case) and then actually acting on those ideas. There have been some pretty good ones in this thread. Maybe it's time we acted. Let's not leave it up to someone else to do the acting, each one of us can make a difference in our own way and through our own contacts.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#3333FF'>Scott A. McHarg</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Texas A&M University<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>PPL - ASEL<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:purple'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br></span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:purple'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>