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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Easy fix:  in D1 we go to the bar after the contest to “visit”. Sometimes
we even meet some new people… </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><img width=91 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.png@01D21385.86DEEB60" alt=idslogo2><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert
Campbell via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Pattern contests aren't as fun as they used to be.  As
attendance drops, contestants have to work more.  At contests, you're
either flying, calling, or judging.  No time left to visit with people you
don't get to see every day.  <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM, blotch44026--- via
NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Stopping the bleeding would be a good start. NSRCA had around 1500
members back in the late 90's. What is membership at now? Lost a whole district
last year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Rick <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message----- <br>
From: John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion <br>
Sent: Sep 20, 2016 11:02 AM <br>
To: 'General pattern discussion' <br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
always thought the reason why we went to turnaround Pattern in the first place
was to reduce our “footprint” and to minimize noise. This was back when we had
60’s and tuned pipes (the good old days) Now that the average Pattern plane
makes less noise than a freaking butterfly I guess it could become an option
(no turnarounds) but I don’t think that’s necessary. </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One
thing that we tried in D1 was to have an informal / loosely judged competition
with small electric planes. We opened this to ANYONE although I don’t think any
nn Pattern pilots ever entered. It was fun but we stopped doing it.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>See
the REAL “problem” is that, as you said, we’re losing people faster than we’re
attracting new ones. Just retaining people is good and certainly necessary but
it just stops the bleeding. You DO need to get new people interested but as
I’ve said that’s about 1 out of every 10 that has just learned to fly. </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John
Pavlick</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cell:
<a href="tel:203-417-4971" target="_blank">203-417-4971</a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><b>Error!
Filename not specified.</b></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Integrated
Development Services</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Scott McHarg'; 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Even if we
are recognized……the interested person is likely going to be a modeler who
already is aware of Pattern.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>I don’t
think any assets or time should be wasted in trying to get non-modelers-flyers
interested in Pattern.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>As others
have said…it’s booooring…like watching paint dry.</span><span style='color:
black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>There are
plenty of modelers who already know how to fly but are never going to try
Pattern.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>In the
past….retaining flyers is a larger problem than attracting new flyers.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Over the
years the entry count dwindled to what it is now….extremely low.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Why???</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>There are a
lot of reasons but in my opinion….the most prominent are…..</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Turnaround
style of maneuvers.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Ever
increasing difficulty of maneuvers.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Some clubs
resistance to an event that locks up the field for 2 days……or even 1 day….for a
crummy $50 or so donation to the club from entry fee residue.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>As others
have repeatedly said…..expense. I really don’t buy this because Pattern has
ALWAYS been expensive…this is nothing new.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>If a club
flyer is interested enough to try Pattern….he will find a way to justify the
expense.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>The same
flyers always win, place or show. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>After years
of trying…many flyers drop out because they know they do not have a chance of
taking home any wood….yes, I know, practice more….true to a point.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Judging…..well…..we
all know about this subject….but I know this causes many flyers to drop out.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>All of this
is nothing new….it has been hashed over hundreds of times….but as Scott
said….nothing keeps on happening.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>I think that
the NSRCA should try something radically new….like change all classes below
Masters to non-Turnaround maneuvers.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Fly what you
bring….up to 30 lbs.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Remove all
integrated maneuvers from Masters class.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Have
radically fewer contests in an effort to get the entrant count much higher at
each contest as a way to help club members justify a non-flying weekend.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Hopefully a
large crowd will attract club members to Pattern……6 guys flying for two days
ain’t gonna attract anything but hard feelings from club members who just want
to fly their stick.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>If changes
similar to the above could be tried….perhaps club members should be allowed to
sport fly along with the contestants.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>This at the
least would remove the club members ‘lost weekend’ and perhaps change the
attitude of some clubs.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>David Harmon</span></b><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Sperry, OK</span></b><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>
NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 4:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atwood, Mark <<a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com"
target="_blank">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>>; General pattern discussion
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue'>The original reason I posted
this is because we need to really "do something" to actually get
people to recognize us.  DRL got ESPN and, while there is an obvious
attraction to this by young and old, they started from something and
somewhere.  Do we need ESPN?  While nice, the answer is no.  I
wanted to show all of us that this is what is attracting potential pilots and,
for that matter, getting the notoriety.  The discussion is usually "why
is this happening" instead of what can we do to "Be like Mike"
(in this case) and then actually acting on those ideas.  There have been
some pretty good ones in this thread.  Maybe it's time we acted. 
Let's not leave it up to someone else to do the acting, each one of us can make
a difference in our own way and through our own contacts.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#3333FF'>Scott A.
McHarg</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='color:black'>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='color:black'>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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