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<p>Well said Bryan! I was thinking along those same lines! I have a vision in my head, I just need to figure out how to make it real
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of B Hebert via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:50:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Campbell; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</font>
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<div class="PlainText">We should try advertising :) <br>
Someone could make a nice video ( What is pattern ,how do I participate? ) with websites, placement today ,easily done ..
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Buy add space on forums .. The top mags with a half page add..ECT make it cool again.
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I bet a lot of guys are interested they just need a good push or excuse.<br>
The Nsrca is a hidden organization ,you only know about it after your interested. We're inbred so to speak.
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What drove a lot of intrest in the past was magazine coverage of local events . By guys like Papas , Lowe, ect ,and innovators in the Hobby this is still the case.
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We need to be clever on our Aproach. There is no reason to Change how we operate the rules or participants.
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Those rules are the result of a Mature Competition. Rules? They are the reason we still exist.
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We need Bait ..or Click Bait lol <br>
A few well placed adds and slick videos I bet would do more to encourage participation and 10 rule changes.<br>
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Bryan <br>
---- Robert Campbell via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Pattern contests aren't as fun as they used to be. As attendance drops,<br>
> contestants have to work more. At contests, you're either flying, calling,<br>
> or judging. No time left to visit with people you don't get to see every<br>
> day.<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM, blotch44026--- via NSRCA-discussion <<br>
> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Stopping the bleeding would be a good start. NSRCA had around 1500 members<br>
> > back in the late 90's. What is membership at now? Lost a whole district<br>
> > last year.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Rick<br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion<br>
> > Sent: Sep 20, 2016 11:02 AM<br>
> > To: 'General pattern discussion'<br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition<br>
> ><br>
> > I always thought the reason why we went to turnaround Pattern in the first<br>
> > place was to reduce our “footprint” and to minimize noise. This was back<br>
> > when we had 60’s and tuned pipes (the good old days) Now that the average<br>
> > Pattern plane makes less noise than a freaking butterfly I guess it could<br>
> > become an option (no turnarounds) but I don’t think that’s necessary.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > One thing that we tried in D1 was to have an informal / loosely judged<br>
> > competition with small electric planes. We opened this to ANYONE although I<br>
> > don’t think any nn Pattern pilots ever entered. It was fun but we stopped<br>
> > doing it.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > See the REAL “problem” is that, as you said, we’re losing people faster<br>
> > than we’re attracting new ones. Just retaining people is good and certainly<br>
> > necessary but it just stops the bleeding. You DO need to get new people<br>
> > interested but as I’ve said that’s about 1 out of every 10 that has just<br>
> > learned to fly. L<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > John Pavlick<br>
> ><br>
> > Cell: 203-417-4971<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > [image: idslogo2]<br>
> ><br>
> > Integrated Development Services<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > *From:* NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<br>
> > *On Behalf Of *David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion<br>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:38 AM<br>
> > *To:* 'Scott McHarg'; 'General pattern discussion'<br>
> > *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Even if we are recognized……the interested person is likely going to be a<br>
> > modeler who already is aware of Pattern.<br>
> ><br>
> > I don’t think any assets or time should be wasted in trying to get<br>
> > non-modelers-flyers interested in Pattern.<br>
> ><br>
> > As others have said…it’s booooring…like watching paint dry.<br>
> ><br>
> > There are plenty of modelers who already know how to fly but are never<br>
> > going to try Pattern.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > In the past….retaining flyers is a larger problem than attracting new<br>
> > flyers.<br>
> ><br>
> > Over the years the entry count dwindled to what it is now….extremely low.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Why???<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > There are a lot of reasons but in my opinion….the most prominent are…..<br>
> ><br>
> > Turnaround style of maneuvers.<br>
> ><br>
> > Ever increasing difficulty of maneuvers.<br>
> ><br>
> > Some clubs resistance to an event that locks up the field for 2 days……or<br>
> > even 1 day….for a crummy $50 or so donation to the club from entry fee<br>
> > residue.<br>
> ><br>
> > As others have repeatedly said…..expense. I really don’t buy this because<br>
> > Pattern has ALWAYS been expensive…this is nothing new.<br>
> ><br>
> > If a club flyer is interested enough to try Pattern….he will find a way to<br>
> > justify the expense.<br>
> ><br>
> > The same flyers always win, place or show.<br>
> ><br>
> > After years of trying…many flyers drop out because they know they do not<br>
> > have a chance of taking home any wood….yes, I know, practice more….true to<br>
> > a point.<br>
> ><br>
> > Judging…..well…..we all know about this subject….but I know this causes<br>
> > many flyers to drop out.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > All of this is nothing new….it has been hashed over hundreds of times….but<br>
> > as Scott said….nothing keeps on happening.<br>
> ><br>
> > I think that the NSRCA should try something radically new….like change all<br>
> > classes below Masters to non-Turnaround maneuvers.<br>
> ><br>
> > Fly what you bring….up to 30 lbs.<br>
> ><br>
> > Remove all integrated maneuvers from Masters class.<br>
> ><br>
> > Have radically fewer contests in an effort to get the entrant count much<br>
> > higher at each contest as a way to help club members justify a non-flying<br>
> > weekend.<br>
> ><br>
> > Hopefully a large crowd will attract club members to Pattern……6 guys<br>
> > flying for two days ain’t gonna attract anything but hard feelings from<br>
> > club members who just want to fly their stick.<br>
> ><br>
> > If changes similar to the above could be tried….perhaps club members<br>
> > should be allowed to sport fly along with the contestants.<br>
> ><br>
> > This at the least would remove the club members ‘lost weekend’ and perhaps<br>
> > change the attitude of some clubs.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > *David Harmon*<br>
> ><br>
> > *Sperry, OK*<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > *From:* NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<br>
> > *On Behalf Of *Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion<br>
> > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 4:14 PM<br>
> > *To:* Atwood, Mark <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com>; General pattern discussion <<br>
> > nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
> > *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > The original reason I posted this is because we need to really "do<br>
> > something" to actually get people to recognize us. DRL got ESPN and, while<br>
> > there is an obvious attraction to this by young and old, they started from<br>
> > something and somewhere. Do we need ESPN? While nice, the answer is no.<br>
> > I wanted to show all of us that this is what is attracting potential pilots<br>
> > and, for that matter, getting the notoriety. The discussion is usually<br>
> > "why is this happening" instead of what can we do to "Be like Mike" (in<br>
> > this case) and then actually acting on those ideas. There have been some<br>
> > pretty good ones in this thread. Maybe it's time we acted. Let's not<br>
> > leave it up to someone else to do the acting, each one of us can make a<br>
> > difference in our own way and through our own contacts.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > *Scott A. McHarg*<br>
> ><br>
> > VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<br>
> ><br>
> > Texas A&M University<br>
> ><br>
> > PPL - ASEL<br>
> ><br>
> > Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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