<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]-->
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Helvetica;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Impact;
panose-1:2 11 8 6 3 9 2 5 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:black;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:black;}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black;}
span.BalloonTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle20
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";
font-family:"Consolas","serif";
color:black;}
span.EmailStyle25
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="2050" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>True but let’s face it it’s a LOT easier to “get
started” playing golf than it is to get started flying Pattern. It’s
also a lot easier to find a golf tournament than a Pattern contest. If I didn’t
have a good GPS I would have never made it to some of the contests that I’ve
flown in. Dr. Evil has more signs pointing to his secret underground lair than
we ever put up for a Pattern Contest! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><img width=91 height=39 id="_x0000_i1030"
src="cid:image001.png@01D212B3.CA1586A0" alt=idslogo2><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Stuart Chale
[mailto:schale1@outlook.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> jpavlick@idseng.com; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>And more importantly a lot of people play it and realize how good those guys
(and gals) really are.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just a quick Google of number of people that played golf in the US per
year. Not sure of the accuracy but between 25 and 29 million. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>That's only about 25 to 29 million more than there are pattern fliers.
Taking rounding errors into account of course :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Stuart<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>On 9/19/2016 4:22 PM, John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That’s because there’s lots of $$$ involved in Pro
Golf.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><img width=91 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.png@01D212B3.CA1586A0" alt=idslogo2></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vogel, Peter via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Fuqua; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div id=divtagdefaultwrapper>
<p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>That's
an excellent point. Pro golf is *incredibly* boring to watch, yet it's on
TV *a lot*. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>
<hr size=2 width="98%" align=center>
</div>
<div id=divRplyFwdMsg>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org></a>
on behalf of John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 12:51:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I like to compare it to pro golf. Unless you have
played you have no idea of the difficulty.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>W Anthony Abdullah via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Vogel; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>That I would agree with. It's like watching a plane fly a
simple loop, vs. watching the same loop with an explanation of downgrades like,
wings not level, entry and exit altitude changes, and overall roundness. It's
that understanding that increases the respect and interest in said maneuver.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>That fact notwithstanding, pattern still is not a big
spectator sport. It just takes a special sort of person to appreciate it. Most
people have the same response my nephew has... Whatever...<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:purple'>However, in terms of spectator interest, I would say our patterns
are analogous to the compulsories in figure skating.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>>
I have thought about that before. Other than the skater
falling over, I would have no idea how to judge skating. Same > for
most folks watching us fly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>Having
watched televised compulsories back in the 80's, the key is the
commentary. Helping people to understand what they are watching for and
to build a mental "relationship" with the competitors so they feel
the same highs and lows as the competitor does during the flight. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>That's
why I think we need to do a Demo video of a world class competition, with
expert commentary and color commentary from someone familiar with (but not
necessarily at the world class judging level). Then market that demo with
ESPN, etc. and get it out there virally on YouTube.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>At
our annual airshow we do a live demo of precision aerobatics with me doing the
commentary around the maneuvers to be flown -- it's one of the most popular
demos (right next to turbines) and gets great feedback from an audience of over
1000.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>Peter+</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Phil via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>Not
the "Compulsories", Ed...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>They
do figures that are required, and are judged on a 10-point scale.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>However,
in terms of spectator interest, I would say our patterns are analogous to the
compulsories in figure skating. I have thought about that
before. Other than the skater falling over, I would have no idea how to
judge skating. Same for most folks watching us fly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><strong><i><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus</span></i></strong><b><i><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member</span></strong><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>SPA L-18, Board Member</span></strong><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Oliver Springs, TN (865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c</span></strong></span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I was
speaking in terms of how exciting it is to watch, not the
"performance" itself. Figure skating is closer to IMAC
freestyle.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>
On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Peter Vogel <<a
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"
target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"
target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<br clear=all>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Director, Fixed Wing Flight Training<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Associate Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics
District X<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Treasurer, National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics
(NSRCA)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img
border=0 width=200 height=154 id="_x0000_i1028"
src="cid:image002.jpg@01D212B3.CA1586A0" alt="Image removed by sender."><img
border=0 width=200 height=136 id="_x0000_i1029"
src="cid:image003.jpg@01D212B3.CA1586A0" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>
NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>