<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #800080"><div aria-label="Compose body">Well, at least you get to watch the grass grow! lol</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><style><!--
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--></style><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#FFFFFF;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 12pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><p>That's an excellent point. Pro golf is *incredibly* boring to watch, yet it's on TV *a lot*. </p></div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" data-mce-style="display: inline-block; width: 98%;"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span face="Calibri, sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 12:51:38 PM<br> <b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span><div> </div></div><div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I like to compare it to pro golf. Unless you have played you have no idea of the difficulty.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" data-mce-style="border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>W Anthony Abdullah via NSRCA-discussion<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Peter Vogel; General pattern discussion<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">That I would agree with. It's like watching a plane fly a simple loop, vs. watching the same loop with an explanation of downgrades like, wings not level, entry and exit altitude changes, and overall roundness. It's that understanding that increases the respect and interest in said maneuver.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">That fact notwithstanding, pattern still is not a big spectator sport. It just takes a special sort of person to appreciate it. Most people have the same response my nephew has... Whatever...<br> <br> Sent from my iPad</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">However, in terms of spectator interest, I would say our patterns are analogous to the compulsories in figure skating.</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">> I have thought about that before. Other than the skater falling over, I would have no idea how to judge skating. Same > for most folks watching us fly.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">Having watched televised compulsories back in the 80's, the key is the commentary. Helping people to understand what they are watching for and to build a mental "relationship" with the competitors so they feel the same highs and lows as the competitor does during the flight. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">That's why I think we need to do a Demo video of a world class competition, with expert commentary and color commentary from someone familiar with (but not necessarily at the world class judging level). Then market that demo with ESPN, etc. and get it out there virally on YouTube.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">At our annual airshow we do a live demo of precision aerobatics with me doing the commentary around the maneuvers to be flown -- it's one of the most popular demos (right next to turbines) and gets great feedback from an audience of over 1000.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">Peter+</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Phil via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">Not the "Compulsories", Ed...</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">They do figures that are required, and are judged on a 10-point scale.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">However, in terms of spectator interest, I would say our patterns are analogous to the compulsories in figure skating. I have thought about that before. Other than the skater falling over, I would have no idea how to judge skating. Same for most folks watching us fly.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><strong><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;">Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus</span></i></strong><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;"><br> <strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member</span></strong><br> <strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">SPA L-18, Board Member</span></strong><br> <strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Oliver Springs, TN (865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c</span></strong></span></i></b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;"><br> <br> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;"> </span></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center" data-mce-style="text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: black;">I was speaking in terms of how exciting it is to watch, not the "performance" itself. Figure skating is closer to IMAC freestyle.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: black;"><br> On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: black;"><br> _______________________________________________<br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: purple;"> </span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br> _______________________________________________<br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br> <br clear="all"></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">--</p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Director, Fixed Wing Flight Training</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Associate Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Treasurer, National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in" data-mce-style="border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; padding: 0in;"><img border="0" width="200" height="154" id="_x0000_i1026" alt="Image removed by sender." src="cid:image001.jpg@01D21285.53176C40" data-mce-src="cid:image001.jpg@01D21285.53176C40"><img border="0" width="200" height="136" id="_x0000_i1027" alt="Image removed by sender." src="cid:image002.jpg@01D21285.53176C40" data-mce-src="cid:image002.jpg@01D21285.53176C40"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" data-mce-style="margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></p></div></blockquote></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</div><div><br></div></div></body></html>