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From: "Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> <br>
Date: 9/7/16 4:51 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: Scott McHarg <scmcharg@gmail.com>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics <br>
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<div>I’d like to present a slightly different take (though not dispelling what Mike or others are saying) but it’s specific to this new class and why I think it’s important, AND how to sell it.
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<div class="">IN my opinion, pattern is all about competition, and in general, a very small percentage of society, in ANY hobby, is focused on competing. Those that are, get the bug. We have created MANY barriers for the competitive person to try pattern.
Cost, Commitment, Difficulty, etc, we all know them. </div>
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<div class="">The one this Club Class is trying to address, is getting your local sport guy to experience the contest environment and see if they like it. Only a few will…and those that do, will do what they need to do to participate. But we’re not even getting
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<div class="">This allows them to grab a group of their hot shot, fun fly buddies, bring planes that already have, fly maneuvers they already know how to do, and get bragging rights amongst their peers as to who was better. </div>
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<div class="">There are MANY golfers out there… and most won’t sign up for a serious tournament. Too tense, too expensive, too many better golfers that will make them feel foolish…etc. But they’ll all grab their golf buddies and go play a scramble and try
to win. And just like pattern… if you actually DO sign up for a tournament, you’ll find it’s NOT tense, half the players suck more than you do, and it’s a ton of fun.</div>
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<div class="">So this club class, if properly promoted… is a way to get your local club to participate. It’s no good to get one guy… you need to get a handful under the premise that they’re competing against one another. No pressure. No out of town semi
pro sportsman on the tour to embarrass them. Club class is really for local flyers only.</div>
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<div class="">The goal is really two fold in my mind. <b class="">One, to get local participation.</b> It’s added help for the CD, and added benefit for the club hosting the event. Two, they might like it. IF they have that competitive bug, they’ll get
bit. They’ll see how a contest flows. See the caliber of the Novice (sorry…sportsman) pilots and realize, “hey…I can do that”. And maybe will give it a try. At THAT point… they’ll learn the simple turnaround that Sportsman has. But until then, this needs
to be uber simple, and heavily promoted.</div>
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rules that perpetuate less expense and less difficulty, just being voluntary is not gonna work.
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taken out at a regular meet for 13 years or more). If someone wants to go out and buy a 6s or 8s capable aerobatic bird, and fly Sportsman, Intermesiate, Advanced, masters, or even FAI with it, go for it. We all know that it will be smaller thus harder to
judge, maneuvers will be smaller, and etc.... But they are not required to have a 2 meter ship. I don't see why a rule change has to be implemented in those regards as that is the way it is now ??<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: "Dr. Mike Harrison via NSRCA-discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.<wbr class="">org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics
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complexity and difficulty of flying and competing. The fundamental reason, I believe, is the cost, complexity and burden of time to simply use the current aircraft. I have drafted but not submitted a rules change to affect that issue.</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1f497d">Fundamentally, I submit that the beginning classes be restricted to smaller aircraft with limitations of powerplant sizes.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1f497d">The existing current pilots flying in those classes have their current aircraft grandfathered in.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1f497d">These classes would be sportsman, intermediate, and advanced.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1f497d">If you would research the cost of aircraft w 22volt systems vs our current systems you will find the cost of smaller aircraft to be ¼ to 1/3 the cost
of the current 2m plane.</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1f497d">The vast majority of parents will not spend $4000-5000 for their kid to compete a few times in the beginning classes, nor commit a monthly expense
of $200+ or whatever to maintain. And then there is the crash and destroy $1000’s in one aircraft. Even adults won’t commit to that kind of expense themselves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1f497d">There is more to this but that is the basic underlying cause of the disease.</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:9.5pt; font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:blue">The answer I'm about to give you makes it sound like all is lost. I don't believe it is (which is why we came up with the Club sequence) but let's just stick
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:9.5pt; font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:blue">The answer to your question can be one word only or it can be a million adjectives of the same word. That word is "cool". The kids coming up want instant
gratification, want to be cool, want notoriety, want to be thought of as the kid who can show off the best. You simply can't do that with pattern. Have you watched the fingers of these kids that fly 3D at Joe Nall or IRCHA? They're slamming sticks. Then,
watch the planes / helicopters and see how much of the stick movement actually equates to control over the aircraft. Half of the time is spent simply recovering from mistakes. :)</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:9.5pt; font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:blue">For some reason, the world has changed into a Social Media frenzy. Kids feel like they're missing out if we as parents threaten to take away their phones as
punishment. Kids don't need to go outside to talk to friends because they can do it on the couch with their phones. They want instant gratification and instant knowledge. Most of the time, their friends know what's going on before other people at the event
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size:9.5pt; font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:blue">Pattern is nothing like this mentality at all. Pattern takes a lot of practice (as you know) and patience and set up and checking to make sure everything is
perfect. Practicing is boring unless you're doing it. There's no "wow factor". In my opinion, THIS is what we're battling. In pattern, you actually have to fly the aircraft perfectly. There's no gyro to make you look better (Quads, Helicopters and Drones),
there's not that much of an adrenaline rush (until you're in front of the judges) and there's no screen to stare at like in FPV racing. Pattern is an art and it takes that special person, the guy that wants to be artistic, to be a pattern pilot. Our costs
are high for the best of the best which all of these kids want. They don't want a 1980 Super Kaos to learn the skills required. In almost all other facets, you can have quite good equipment, that is accepted by their peers, for a lot less than what it would
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flying pattern! What is this? Good question, we have heard from the membership that it would be nice for the NSRCA to define a non-rulebook pattern entry level event that a CD could offer if they so decided. This would be a non-turnaround “old-school” type
of pattern that any club flyer could do and yet still be challenged by. It will gi</span><span class="" style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:inherit; color:#1d2129">ve the CD the opportunity to grab some of the “hot dog” type sport flyers at his club, and
maybe some old time pattern pilots, and hand them a maneuver/downgrade sheet and say “come on out to the pattern contest next weekend and see what you can do!” Who knows, if he can get three or four club flyers to come out maybe some will think, “Hey, this
is fun! I could learn that Sportsman pattern” Worst case it will get some more club flyers to participate in local events which always makes it easier to “sell” a pattern contest to the local club officers! So, dust off those older pattern planes and those
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