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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Known Jay a long time, just a great giver to the sport. Great guy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mike <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>towerguy102--- via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> jaysgerber@earthlink.net; nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>10++ Jay<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Jay Gerber via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>To: 'John Fuqua' <<a href="mailto:johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</a>>; 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Wed, Sep 7, 2016 2:46 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_a8b6b1de-cef1-48ff-8211-2343a3464cc1"><div style='margin-bottom:33.75pt'><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>John, et al: </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I made that movie of the 71 RCWC event and I remember all the “spectators” and young folks that were there “marveling” at the planes and the contestants, talking with them, guys like Ron Chidgey, Whitley, Kraft and many others from around the world….THIS IMPRESSED MANY YOUTH THAT WERE THERE….in fact one of those youth is our district 3 VP, Mark Radcliff who to this day credits that event for launching him into RC and eventually competition…what better an example of what seems to be missing at contests today is PR, inviting the public, making the sport more visible and understandable….getting out to the community by the club members who are putting on the event….certainly not an easy task but just a thought from this old retired “turn around pattern lover”…</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Don’t give up…..”step up”…..</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jay Gerber</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 07, 2016 11:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tretas513@yahoo.com">tretas513@yahoo.com</a>; 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I will address the “turnaround sucks” thought from my perspective. Way back when I had given up on ballistic pattern. Did not do anything for me anymore. Then we got turnaround and I got back into it. Why and what was the result of turnaround? First of all turnaround challenged your flying skills and over time it has elevated the skills of all the participants. There was a youtube video going around of the world championships in Doylestown PA back in the 71 I think that most probably watched. Old time planes and maneuvers that we now do in Intermediate. The first few F3A sequenced in turnaround were about what the advanced guys are flying today. Had we stuck with ballistic pattern do now know where we would be today but the one thing I am confident of is that the cost would still be high because as was pointed out by Dave an email are two ago people strive to get the best equipment available. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Yeah people are flying SPA and having fun. But look at the ages of the contestants and guess what?? Same as turnaround folks. Old guys reliving their youth. Nothing wrong with that but it’s not going to attract youth of today.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>tretas513--- via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Most pattern fliers know why pattern is declining but won't admit it...too much expense, too much time invested for practice and traveling, and in my opinion (and a lot of others) turnaround sucks !</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Flying airplanes and competing is supposed to be fun...it used to be...still is in SPA !!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>My entire SPA airplane ready to fly costs half what the engine in my 2 meter cost and most SPA contests are one day meets...no motels !! </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Disclaimer: just my opinion !!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="aolmail_SignatureBox"><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div id="aolmail_LGEmailHeader"><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>------ Original message------</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Date: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Wed, Sep 7, 2016 8:40 AM</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Jas S;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Cc: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>General pattern discussion;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif;color:black'>😎</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1 style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br>On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Jas S <<a href="mailto:justanotherflyr@gmail.com" target="_blank">justanotherflyr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Isn't that like hearing a Masters pilot say the roll on the top of a loop shouldn't be in Masters lol. Love ya Gary</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Sportsman isnt easy enough ????</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Not sure how it could get more basic .. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>But wat ever works lord knows we need something to attract new blood or bring old blood back... </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>G<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1 style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br>On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue'>All,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue'>This is a note from Jon Carter from the NSRCA BoD. FYI!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:14.5pt;font-fam ily:helvetica,arial,sans-serif'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1D2129'>Announcing the NSRCA “Club Class!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:4.5pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:14.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1D2129'>Whether you want to call it Club class or Novice class or whatever, it’s OK, as long as we get more people flying pattern! What is this? Good question, we have heard from the membership that it would be nice for the NSRCA to define a non-rulebook pattern entry level event that a CD could offer if they so decided. This would be a non-turnaround “old-school” type of pattern that any club flyer could do and yet still be challenged by. It will gi</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#1D2129'>ve the CD the opportunity to grab some of the “hot dog” type sport flyers at his club, and maybe some old time pattern pilots, and hand them a maneuver/downgrade sheet and say “come on out to the pattern contest next weekend and see what you can do!” Who knows, if he can get three or four club flyers to come out maybe some will think, “Hey, this is fun! I could learn that Sportsman pattern” Worst case it will get some more club flyers to participate in local events which always makes it easier to “sell” a pattern contest to the local club officers! So, dust off those older pattern planes and those sport planes and come out and have some fun! Look on the NSRCA website under the Sequence tab for the maneuver list and descriptions.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:14.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#1D2129'><a href="https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences" target="_blank">https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:4.5pt;line-height:14.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:inherit;color:#1D2129'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#3333FF'>Scott A. McHarg</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Texas A&M University</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>PPL - ASEL</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br><br clear=all></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>-- </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=aolmailmsonormal1><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Jason<br><a href="http://jasonshangar.weebly.com/" target="_blank">http://jasonshangar.weebly.com/</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-<a href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org">discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>