<html><body><div style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-label="Compose body">In board of directors discussions it was agreed that the stall turn begins with the pull on center, which puts the vertical part off to one side so the pilot can see the top of the airplane.</div><div aria-label="Compose body">I've run one of my fellow club members through this sequence. He was having trouble doing the Sportsman schedule, the particular problem being errors building up in the turnarounds. He did much, much better with the 'Club' version and went from "I can't get it" to "I can do this" in one flight. He was not discouraged by the two loops, just wants some help in getting them right.</div><div aria-label="Compose body">I think it's a good schedule.</div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">Scott</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>To: </b>"Joe Lachowski" <jlachow@hotmail.com>, "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:11:46 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics<br><div><br></div><style style="display:none;" data-mce-style="display: none;"><!-- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} --></style><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#FFFFFF;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 12pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><p>And I forgot. Make it one loop, not two. We need to make within the capability of 99% of a club members, not the top 10 to 20% of club members.<br></p><br> I have been waiting for the this sequence to be announced to consider its use in a club members event and it falls short. It should be closer to a fun fly event in nature not an aerobatics contest.<br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" data-mce-style="color: #000000;"><hr style="width: 98%; display: inline-block;" data-mce-style="width: 98%; display: inline-block;"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b> NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:04 PM<br> <b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics</span><div> </div></div><div><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: #ffffff;"><p>A poorly designed sequence of maneuvers. It shows how out of touch we are with the average club sport flyer.</p><p><br></p><p>If it were up to me, the inverted flight would be a simple roll and the procedure turn could be a stall turn that would be visible to the pilot instead of awkward looking as a centered maneuver. Better yet, maybe we should drop the stall turn. We should look at this sequence as being capably done with a 40 size trainer<br></p><br> I would also incorporate a horizontal figure 8 in it, as well. Most clubs that I know of and belong to require a Horizontal Figure 8 to pass their solo test. <br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" data-mce-style="color: #000000;"><hr style="width: 98%; display: inline-block;" data-mce-style="width: 98%; display: inline-block;"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b> NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:51 AM<br> <b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics</span><div> </div></div><div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1f497d; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">It’s the whole “aerobatic box” concept that freaks out the average sport pilot. Believe me – it’s a BIG deal to them.</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1f497d; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1f497d; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;">John Pavlick</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); 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font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1f497d; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" data-mce-style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: #b5c4df currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:47 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Scott McHarg; General pattern discussion<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics</span></p></div></div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"> </p><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;">Sportsman isnt easy enough ????</p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"> </p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;">Not sure how it could get more basic .. </p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"> </p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;">But wat ever works lord knows we need something to attract new blood or bring old blood back... </p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"> </p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"> </p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;">G<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><br> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" data-mce-style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" data-mce-style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Georgia","serif";" data-mce-style="color: blue; font-family: 'Georgia','serif';">All,</span></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Georgia","serif";" data-mce-style="color: blue; font-family: 'Georgia','serif';"> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Georgia","serif";" data-mce-style="color: blue; font-family: 'Georgia','serif';">This is a note from Jon Carter from the NSRCA BoD. FYI!</span></p></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Georgia","serif";" data-mce-style="color: blue; font-family: 'Georgia','serif';"> </span></p></div><div><p style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;" data-mce-style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;"><span style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1d2129; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10.5pt;">Announcing the NSRCA “Club Class!</span></p><p style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;" data-mce-style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;"><span style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1d2129; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10.5pt;">Whether you want to call it Club class or Novice class or whatever, it’s OK, as long as we get more people flying pattern! What is this? Good question, we have heard from the membership that it would be nice for the NSRCA to define a non-rulebook pattern entry level event that a CD could offer if they so decided. This would be a non-turnaround “old-school” type of pattern that any club flyer could do and yet still be challenged by. It will gi</span><span><span style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: "inherit","serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1d2129; font-family: 'inherit','serif'; font-size: 10.5pt;">ve the CD the opportunity to grab some of the “hot dog” type sport flyers at his club, and maybe some old time pattern pilots, and hand them a maneuver/downgrade sheet and say “come on out to the pattern contest next weekend and see what you can do!” Who knows, if he can get three or four club flyers to come out maybe some will think, “Hey, this is fun! I could learn that Sportsman pattern” Worst case it will get some more club flyers to participate in local events which always makes it easier to “sell” a pattern contest to the local club officers! So, dust off those older pattern planes and those sport planes and come out and have some fun! Look on the NSRCA website under the Sequence tab for the maneuver list and descriptions.</span></span><span style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1d2129; font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; font-size: 10.5pt;"></span></p><div><p style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;" data-mce-style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;"><span style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: "inherit","serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1d2129; font-family: 'inherit','serif'; font-size: 10.5pt;"><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences" data-mce-style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(54, 88, 153); text-decoration: none;" data-mce-style="color: #365899; text-decoration: none;">https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences</span></a></span></p><p style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;" data-mce-style="line-height: 14.5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 4.5pt; margin-left: 0in;"><span style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: "inherit","serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;" data-mce-style="color: #1d2129; font-family: 'inherit','serif'; font-size: 10.5pt;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;"><b><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; font-size: 13.5pt;" data-mce-style="color: #3333ff; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; font-size: 13.5pt;">Scott A. McHarg</span></b></p><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; font-size: 12pt;">VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. 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