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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott
Smith via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 01, 2016 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stuart Chale; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI 1/2 points<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I asked that same question and was told:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i>"</i><i><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>No particular
reason was given for the rounding up... They preferred it versus rounding down.</span>"</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Stuart Chale via
NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Some ideas and changes are just plain stupid! There I
said it :)<br>
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I have always hated the fact that some judging criteria and downgrades<br>
were different in FAI and AMA. Makes judging which is a tough job to do<br>
right even tougher. You have to know 2 different sets of rules and in<br>
the long run only lowers the accuracy of judging, most likely more so<br>
for the FAI fliers. But that is another can of worms.<br>
<br>
I thought that allowing 1/2 points in FAI sounded like a good idea, we<br>
are used to it in the rest of the classes. And since the FAI pilots are<br>
in most part the better fliers they are more likely to make the 1/2<br>
point errors as compared to the greater inaccuracies usually seen in the<br>
lower classes.<br>
<br>
But wait an 8.5 becomes a 9, and a 9 is still a 9 ??????<br>
<br>
So just to prove how silly this idea can be I used Scott's scoring<br>
program and ran a fictitious contest with 2 flyers and 2 rounds. I used<br>
a couple of friends as contestants so to not offend anyone. I also had<br>
to use the masters sequence as an example, as the program automatically<br>
rounds up FAI scores.<br>
<br>
Hopefully the PDF files are attached.<br>
<br>
Each flyer received identical scores in each of their 2 flights. AR<br>
received all 7.5's except one maneuver which was an 8.5, and DL all 8's<br>
. In round 1 scores were not rounded up and in round 2 the scores were<br>
rounded up as they would automatically be done in FAI.<br>
<br>
Look at the files for AR round 1 and DL round 1. It would seem
pretty<br>
obvious who should win that round and without rounding up AR gets a<br>
947.75 to DL's 1000.<br>
<br>
Note that every maneuver but one was judged higher for DL.<br>
<br>
Now look at AR round 2 and DL round 2 rounded up. The same exact judges<br>
scores with only 1 maneuver scored higher for AR, but due to the<br>
rounding up AR wins the round 1000 to 989.86.<br>
<br>
Now this is the extreme and unlikely to actually happen in a contest to<br>
this extent but just the fact that it works this way makes the whole<br>
idea of rounding up ridiculous.<br>
<br>
Is there really an argument that this is a good thing?<br>
<br>
Stuart C.<br>
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