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<DIV>Hobby People batteries are the worst for the balance leads breaking loose 
at the solder point.  Wires to short and stiff.</DIV>
<DIV>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">Chris Moon via 
NSRCA-discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 13, 2016 7:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=robcase1@cox.net href="mailto:robcase1@cox.net">Robert 
Green</A> ; <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org 
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern discussion'</A> 
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Lipo fire</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P>Robert,</P>
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<P>That's a good question as there probably isn't a realistic method of 
knowing.  All one can do is get high quality batteries (not implying yours 
were not) as they tend to have the more flexible multi stranded balance wire vs 
the cheaper stiffer wire that is usually put onto cheaper packs. The more 
flexible wire will help with fatigue issues. I have to tell you that I had 
sample packs from some factories that I put outside on my concrete patio as soon 
as I cut the shrink wrapper off of them and saw the quality of the workmanship 
inside, just unsafe to even have sitting inside.</P>
<P>I guess the seemingly over concerned user who keeps his packs in a fire proof 
canister or sack may be onto something as you really can't tell when a lead 
might break off internally and short. Alternatively, you can cut off the shrink 
wrap and inspect new packs and then reshrink wrap them with a clear shrink wrap 
so you can see as much inside as possible.  The chances of a balance lead 
breaking internally and shorting itself and starting a fire is admittedly 
minuscule but the price of being wrong can be very high and I'm just glad 
everyone there is ok.<BR></P>
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<P>Chris</P>
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 6/13/2016 5:58 PM, Robert Green wrote:<BR></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Chris,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">i would agree that 
  this is where something happened.  I wish i knew from looking at hte pack 
  after pulling it off the charger that something was wrong.  i wonder what 
  a good warning system would look like.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: windowtext">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT 
  color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: windowtext"> Chris Moon 
  [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext 
  href="mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com">mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com</A>] 
  <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 13, 2016 
  2:56 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Robert Green; 
  General pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Lipo 
  fire</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
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  <P><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Glad everyone is ok there 
  Robert.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have handled and dissected hundreds of different 
  packs during my time in business, evaluating samples etc and I can say with 
  certainty the weakest link in our batteries are the balance leads and their 
  connections to the individual cells. These are very thin wires that typically 
  are spot soldered to tiny tabs on the cells and crimped into tiny pin 
  connectors. Insulation of the balance wires inside a pack is usually a thin 
  piece of cellophane looking tape.There is little to no strain relief for the 
  wires and we handle and flex them every time they are charged. I have seen 
  many break off and touch others creating sparks and possibly could have lead 
  to fires if they were pressed together long enough.  I would bet this is 
  what happened to Robert's pack.  The batteries themselves must pass 
  through pretty rigorous testing including being crushed with a metal blade 
  without catching on fire before they will be transported from 
  <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place 
  w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region>.  These testing 
  documents accompany every large battery shipment so it is highly unlikely one 
  would spontaneously combust. With an older pack, it most definitely sounds 
  like an internal short of balance leads.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 6/13/2016 11:15 AM, Robert Green via 
  NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  cite=mid:3BE5184FD38B4A8E87FEC506F6240A62@jaynaHP type="cite">
    <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p> </P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Hey guys wanted to 
    let you know about an incident I had over the weekend that caused some high 
    concern.  I flew four flights yesterday, then returned home.  I 
    thought I would go back out later and fly three more, so I charged three 
    more batteries.  The three batteries on was planning on using, were 
    flown the previous day, and were not overly discharged.  I took my kids 
    to the movies as my wife did not want to go, and that turned out to be the 
    best thing for the family.  One of my 2014 packs decided that it no 
    longer wanted to live and decided to catch fire all by itself.  I have 
    always thought that the best time for these to catch fire, would be during 
    the charge cycle.  This incident happened almost an hour after charging 
    the pack.  Keep in mind that after I charged the pack, there were 
    immediately put into my flight box for storage until I got back from the 
    movies.  After I took them off the charger, the batteries did not see 
    warm in any way, cool to the touch.  I have had these batteries for two 
    and as far as I can remember - they where not damaged in any way.  Due 
    to my wifes' heroic action, the house did not catch on fire like my toolbox 
    did.  She brought them out to the drive way water on them to kill the 
    flames.  I have been pretty cavalier with packs, leaving them out once 
    they are charged and not putting them in something safe for storage....those 
    days are done.  If this can happen to a battery sitting with a stored 
    charge, I will not longer leave my house or family unprotected.  
    <u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p> </P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">I bought a safe 
    yesterday, but apparently that may not be the best thing for them either as 
    the battery give off a gas and they need to breathe.  In other words if 
    you left them in a safe you may be creating a bomb scenario.  What I 
    did was - several years ago, I bought a metal ammo case.  I removed 3/4 
    of the rubber around the case allowing for the exchange of air to 
    occur.<u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p> </P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">If any one has any 
    other creative ideas on how they store there lipos, please contribute to 
    this thread as I think it is important as a community that we spread the 
    message that this technology which has been proven to be safe for the most 
    part also can be dangerous.<u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p> </P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">thanks,<u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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    <P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Robert<u5:p></u5:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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