<html><head></head><body><div> Not Baboons.  Bonobos. With ONE exception (the JR X9303 manual) all radio manuals seem to be written by bonobos throwing their feces at typewriter keys...<br><br><div class="acompli_signature">Sent from <a href="https://aka.ms/wp8k5y">Outlook for iPhone</a></div><br></div><br><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM -0700, "John Gayer" <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net" target="_blank">jgghome@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    I guess that explains why the Futaba UI feels natural to me.<br>
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    The real question is which tribe of baboons wrote the manuals?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/5/2016 9:34 AM, Peter Vogel via
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      <div>It fundamentally comes down to two things in my experience:</div>
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      <div>1.  What was your first computer radio that you learned to
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      <div>2.  If you were taught to program a computer (not a radio)
        were you taught by EE/ME profs or CS profs?      ( if you were
        taught data processing in the business school and know what
        COBOL and SNOBOL stand for, abandon all hope).    EE->Futaba,
         CS->JR/Jeti, COBOL/SNOBOL->Spektrum </div>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:58 PM -0700,
        "Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion" <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span>
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            <div>This is turning into something I did not intend.... I
              do thank you all for your help, and suggestions lol lol
              lol lol lol ........P.S. You may want to reduce the
              milligram intake of what ever your taking lol lol lol lol </div>
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              <div>Sincerely,</div>
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              <div>Matthew E Finley</div>
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            From: Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion
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            Date: 4/4/2016 6:58 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>
            To: General pattern discussion
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            Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] JR XG14 <br>
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              <div>Funny i find the 14 mz easier to program than
                breathing .. Maybe its the intuitive nature of the radio
                thats so confusing for some</div>
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                On Apr 4, 2016, at 12:06 PM, lucky macy via
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                  <div>Anything is probably easier than the 14MZ...</div>
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                            is surprising Matt. The programming is very
                            similar to the Spektrum radios and a bit of
                            the JR 12X and 10X. I only had to look at
                            the manual for some details but I did most
                            of the programming without opening it. Way
                            easier than the 14MZ I used the last few
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                                  Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion
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                                    chuenkan@comcast.net</a>; Keith
                                  Hoard <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com">klhoard@outlook.com</a>>;
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                                  Monday, April 4, 2016 11:59 AM<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                  Re: [NSRCA-discussion] JR XG14<br>
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                                      my few pennies, and not to ruffle
                                      any JR owners feathers.....</div>
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                                      am probably going to be selling it
                                      anyways, I was just going to maybe
                                      put it in some sport planes. I am
                                      a Futaba guy anyways.... I have
                                      tons and tons of experience
                                      programing almost every brand of
                                      radio out there except Jeti, or
                                      Graupner and this one is like
                                      trying to program a German Tank
                                      instrument panel cluster using a
                                      Japanese written manual..... Very
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                                      <div>Matthew E Finley</div>
                                      <div>QCI Technical Assistant</div>
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                                    From: Phil Spelt via
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                                    To: Keith Hoard <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com">klhoard@outlook.com</a>>,
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                                          <div>Yeah, like Futaba is
                                            really easy to program!! 
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                                                to return it to Horizon
                                                for a full refund and
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                                                  <b>Sent: </b>Monday,
                                                  April 4, 2016 10:22<br clear="none">
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                                              <div>Anyone own, or know
                                                of a good youtube video
                                                for basic programing on
                                                the JR 14XG ??</div>
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                                                <div>Matthew E Finley</div>
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