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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Great stuff Bob……Jay<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Robert Campbell [mailto:rgc1701@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jay Gerber; General pattern discussion<br><b>Cc:</b> Patrick Harris<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Re: F3A Championships circa 1971<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here's another must watch.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rob<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7gyGm5-nr0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7gyGm5-nr0</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Jay Gerber via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That’s a super link to lot’s of footage including the TOC with foreign language narration…..Patrick, you ruined my evening, I have to watch it all….it’s great stuff looking into the past and knowing where it all came from is priceless….I enjoyed seeing shots of Don Lowe and so many other great names in our sport….</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jay</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Patrick Harris [mailto:<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank">harris7148@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jay Gerber; General pattern discussion<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:towerguy102@aol.com" target="_blank">towerguy102@aol.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Re: F3A Championships circa 1971</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60NYhU7kq8E" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60NYhU7kq8E</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Patrick Harris <<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank">harris7148@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Here are a couple of other names from the past for you guys:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Doc Brooks and Steve Ellison<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Jay Gerber via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wow….names from the past super flying days…..Gary…so nice to hear from all the folks I bumped into along the way…….thanks for the update and info as well a great New Year to all……Jay</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>towerguy102--- via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 28, 2016 3:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Re: F3A Championships circa 1971</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>HELLO JAY: THE BEST RECALL I HAVE FOR THE PLANE IS A KWIK-FLI 4 THAT NEVER REALLY MADE THE FLI SERIES I WAS APPOINTED A WARRANTY SERVICE STATION AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A LOT OF THE STAFF . MARTY BARRY WAS BUILDING FOR KRAFT AND IN EARLY TALKS WITH HIM THAT FUSE WAS A SOLID BLOCK AND WAS HOLLOWED OUT. PHIL AND TONY (BONETTI) CAME TO THE ORANGE MASSACHUSETTS CONTEST IN 1972 AND PHIL HAD THE SAME AIRPLANE....IT WEIGHED 8 1/4 LBS. IT NEVER GOT ANY MORE ATTENTION. THAT YEAR PHIL, AND TONY, AND ERNIE HUBER BATTLED IT OUT. THAT YEAR EXPERT HAD THE 4-LEAF CLOVER.....WOW LOOK OUT FOR THAT LAST SEGMENT!!.....HAPPY & HEALTHY NEW YEAR</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>GARY GARABIAN<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Jay Gerber via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>To: 'Mike Murphy' <<a href="mailto:mmurphy178@comcast.net" target="_blank">mmurphy178@comcast.net</a>>; 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2016 1:52 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A Championships circa 1971<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mike and Phil, For some reason I’m thinking of “Super Fly”…..I flew with Phil I his 2 place Pitts 2B while his pilot flew his full scale design, the Super Fly….In my movie, Marvelous Miniatures, Phil flies his RC Super Fly, his pilot flies his full scale Super Fly, both planes do rolls then Phil lands the model, immediately you see the full scale land and Phil gets out of the cockpit…..etc……that movie has folks like Maynard Hill demonstrating his static electricity autopilot…..lots of stuff in that one which is 45 minutes long…full production.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I too have a couple of working Kraft Gold Medal radios around…they did a great job back in that day.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jay<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Murphy via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net" target="_blank">chuenkan@comcast.net</a>; General pattern discussion; Jon Lowe; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A Championships circa 1971<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Phil Krafts plane looks like a Kwik Fly 3 or 4. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mike Murphy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>On January 28, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I just made time to watch the vid about the '71 WC! What an era that was. Jon commented about flying those planes -- well, we fly just those planes in the Senior Pattern Association. Despite the bad image we have among you NSRCA guys, we are now enforcing the to-plan building of our planes, and only allow 4-stroke engines and computer radios for convenience and as a nod to "progress". I'm not advertising for SPA, just sayin'...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My comment earlier was those guys didn't have computer mixing to trim their planes with (when someone commented on Strt Inv. Flight as a maneuver). I still have a Kraft 6-channel '83 Series radio with synthesized channel selection that has been narrow-banded (by KMI) , so I <u>could</u> use it -- but I won't. ;-{) It uses the 3-lead battery pack, so I'd have to build a new pack for it before I could fly it. Anyway, first 60-degree day (next Monday, here in TN) I plan to go out and pretend to be Ron or Jim. lol<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I couldn't recognize what Phil K was flying in Doylestown -- what was his plane?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><i>Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus</i></strong><b><i><br><strong>AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member</strong><br><strong>SPA L-18, Board Member</strong><br><strong>(865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c</strong></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks for this Scott, Mike, and the guy who made this, Jay Gerber.<br>I went to that WC with my Dad as a spectator. Amazing to see Jim Whitley, Phil Kraft, and Ron Chidgey at their prime. I remember Doc Edwards, Team Manager, as a super nice guy.<br>The thing I remember most from that WC in those days of ballistic pattern was that the Europeans had taken to throttling back on the downline of loops, etc. Not many people were doing that at the time. Most Americans kept full bore all the way around.<br>As to the simplicity of the sequence, try flying a plane of that period. Limited power, fairly high wing loadings, and fairly short coupled tails made them a handful.<br>I noticed also that virtually none of the radio equipment manufacturers that I saw in the film are around today. Kinda sad.<br>Amazing film.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Jan 27, 2016 11:42 AM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> Here's a video that Mike Mueller posted on Facebook and was produced by our own Jay Gerber. If you have some time, it's a "swell" video about our past and origins.<br>><br>> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jogGq_L320" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jogGq_L320</a><br>><br>> Scott<br>><br>><br>> Scott A. McHarg<br>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<br>> Texas A&M University<br>> PPL - ASEL<br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a> </span></tt><o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>