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This was from today? Sounds like the senator didn't even know about
the FAA registration?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/19/2016 6:52 PM, Anthony
Cornacchione via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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<div>It's going to get worse. The one thing we've been clinging
to is the language in a 4 year old Reauthorization Act that
expires in two months. Here's some senate floor action. Pay
attention around the 430 mark to the end. </div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On Jan 17, 2016, at 12:58 AM, John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">But Matt, I
AM building AND
contributing to the nonsensical… uh, what you said! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John
Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cell:
203-417-4971<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Integrated
Development Services</span><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
NSRCA-discussion
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Kebabjian via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 16, 2016 11:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Gayer; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS
Registration Frequently
Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I
thought youse guys had no
time to build. This nonsensical diatribe over the past
month or so might hint
otherwise.<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Matt Kebabjian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:43 PM, John Gayer via
NSRCA-discussion <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">That
unit of measure being
undefined with a possibility of the delay being zero,
I suggest using the holy
hand grenade to eliminate the intruder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/16/2016 3:19 PM, DaveL322
via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe the appropriate unit
of measure for the
"return time" is 1 migration cycle for an african
swallow.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Sent on
a
Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
-------- Original message --------<br>
From: Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a></a>
<br>
Date: 01/16/2016 16:14 (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: Keith Hoard <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com"><klhoard@outlook.com></a>,
nsrca-discussion <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a>
<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS
Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog <span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">How
long
do we have to wait for them to surface,
Keith? A week --
2 weeks? How long?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Do
we
have free reign with them after they surface?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#8B8B8B">Phil
Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Secretary</span></i></strong><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#8B8B8B"><br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">AMA
1294, Scientific
Leader Member</span></strong><br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">SPA
L-18, Board Member</span></strong><br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(865)
435-1476v
(865) 604-0541c</span></strong></span></i></b><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">We
must give them the “float
test”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Throw
them and their multi-rotors
in the AMA pond in Muncie. If they float,
then they're a witch. If
they don’t return to the surface, then they're
OK.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black">Sent from <a
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman ,serif","serif";
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style="color:black"><br>
<b>From: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">Ed
Alt via NSRCA-discussion</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Saturday, January 16, 2016
12:25<br>
<b>To: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
target="_blank">Peter Vogel</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">NSRCA List</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Update - UAS Registration Frequently
Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations
Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman ,serif","serif";
color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">The
multi-rotor scourge is in no way
comparable to helis.
Heli's require smarts, skill, patience.
They exist for entirely
different reasons than do autonomous
multi-rotor stuff. This is entirely
different. It's a completely incompatible
activity at an RC field if a
dozen or so Joe Blow's show up with them.
They aren't hobbyists and you
will scarcely get converts. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Ed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Date:
Sat, 16 Jan 2016
18:17:35 +0000<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net">burtona@atmc.net</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">ed_alt@hotmail.com</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update
- UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations
Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Same
arguments were made regarding
helicopters at many fields.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Fundamentally,
if a multi rotor pilot comes to the
field (and they
have), I'm going to welcome them and
teach them the rules of the field
(which
includes the AMA safety code and how
to react when full scale flys by low
on
their way to the airfield 6 miles
down the road, or the police
helicopter flies
by very low doing speed control on
hwy 101). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">It's
our only hope: embrace and educate.
The alternative is
shun and lose all opportunity to
discourage unsafe/irresponsible use.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">If
you educate one in responsible use,
there's a possibility they
will spread that knowledge to others
in the community of multi rotor
pilots.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Peter+<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Sent
from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://aka.ms/qtex0l"
target="_blank">Outlook
Mobile</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On
Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:05
AM -0800, "Ed Alt via
NSRCA-discussion" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Dave:<br>
<br>
Yeah, I know that idiots are the
problem. Until we figure out
how to fix
stupid, we should separate
ourselves from the stuff that
those idiots are drawn
to. There's no particular reason
for some clown from the
non-modeling public to
come to an AMA flying field.
Nothing much to video, right?
We'll
never, ever attract them to the
AMA in any kind of meaningful
numbers and
actually, God help us if we did.
Good flying fields are hard
enough to
come by. Do you really want to
be competing for air time
against dozens
of bozos who might show up just
to fly a multi-rotor? No
thanks. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Ed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net">burtona@atmc.net</a><br>
To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">ed_alt@hotmail.com</a></a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Subject: RE:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update -
UAS Registration Frequently
Asked
Questions | AMA Government
Relations Blog<br>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016
12:48:12 -0500<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Multi
rotors are not the
problem. Idiots are the
problem. We
have a few idiots flying
every type of model. I've
seen an idiot chasing
after
a small full scale trying
to get close. That was
with some kind of sport
airplane. Would you keep
a guy away from an AMA
field if he brought out a
Giant scale, a pattern
plane, and a multi rotor
to fly all of them. I'm of
the
opinion I'd rather have
multi rotors at an AMA
field environment rather
than a
mall parking lot or
somewhere else just a
stupid.</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Dave</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="border:none;border-top:solid
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<p class="xecxmsonormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black">
NSRCA-discussion [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed
Alt via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
January 16, 2016 11:31
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Gayer;
Larry Diamond; NSRCA
List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
Update - UAS
Registration
Frequently
Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations
Blog</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">This is why
it's a mistake to
continue to allow
multi-rotor
(actual) drones at any
AMA flying field. It
doesn't matter that most
AMA
members are very
responsible. It takes
perhaps only one full
scale
incident and we could be
done. I think that if
you've got them, take
them
somewhere else. </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Ed</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
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align="center"><span
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<p class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com">ldiamond@diamondrc.com</a></a>;
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></a><br>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan
2016 09:19:42 -0700<br>
Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
Update - UAS
Registration
Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA
Government Relations
Blog<br>
From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></a><br>
<br>
The only time there
will be a problem is
with full-scale
incidents. You then
have a pilot saying
he was at 600 feet
and this "drone"
shot past him
vertically and it
looked like the
"drone" was trying
to hit him. Then
the only issue is
who was flying the
model. That is
relatively simple at
an AMA
field given a
description of the
model.<br>
<br>
A few incidents like
that and we will
have a hard 400 foot
limit (or lower).<br>
<br>
John</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">On
1/16/2016 3:25 AM,
Larry Diamond via
NSRCA-discussion
wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">The
400’ foot
discussion has
been interesting
to follow.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Think
about how they
would enforce
this if it were
regulation
and you were at
a flying site.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
they show up to
the flying site,
they would be
conspicuous
with equipment
trying to
document the
fact you are
above 400’. They
must have
physical
evidence for it
to stand up in
court if the
citation is
issued. You
simply bring
your plan down
to 400’ or don’t
fly.</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2)</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
they were off
site, it is no
different than
issuing speeding
tickets. They
must have
evidence the
plane they
document belongs
to you and
they must be
able to
demonstrate a
violation
occurred and the
history to show
it is you
without
question. This
will not be
enforceable if
they can’t
testify
you were
physically
flying the drone
over 400’.</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">a.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Example:
An enforcement
officer locks
there radar on
you for
speeding. The
officer is
charged with the
responsibility
of maintaining a
visual on you
(history) or
have video to
show your
vehicle was the
one
speeding. If it
is only a video
correlation,
they must be
able to
demonstrate
(testify) it was
you driving and
not somebody
else, typically
pulling you over
within a couple
of minutes. If
this can’t be
demonstrated
(testified) to
the
level of beyond
reasonable
doubt, the
charge/citation
will not stick
and it
will be
dismissed.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Were
the 400’ policy
does get
enforced with
certainty will
be a
post mortem
event. i.e.
midair
collision…
Outside of this
type of event,
it
will be very
difficult to
police and
enforce.</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">It
is one thing to
have a policy
out there. It is
much different
when the policy
is executed and
then tested in
the court
system.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Over
simplified but
the point is
clear for me.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">As
my favorite
comedian always
says, “It is
only my opinion,
I
could be wrong”.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Larry</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">
NSRCA-discussion
[<a
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<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Dana
Beaton via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Friday,
January 15,
2016 9:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Peter Vogel <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><vogel.peter@gmail.com></a></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b>
John Pavlick <a
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General
pattern
discussion <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
Update - UAS
Registration
Frequently
Asked
Questions |
AMA Government
Relations Blog</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">I
hear you but
every time the
400' thing
comes up again
it's in
the wrong
direction and
the
reassurances
carry no
weight
whatsoever in
light of
what has been
published for
us to observe
to date. The
distinctions
will
be costly for
any one
individual to
make if
unlucky to
find oneself
in a
process.
While our
risk may be
low flying at
our club
fields, times
have
definitely
changed...</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">The
ERAU UAS
course is also
a real
eye-opener in
many respects.
I think it is
still open if
anyone is
interested. <br>
<br>
Sent from my
iPad</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><br>
On Jan 15,
2016, at 9:27
PM, Peter
Vogel <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">6.e
uses the word
"should", not
"must" and
that's a very
important
legal
distinction,
making that a
guideline, not
a
requirement.
Further, as
they said on
Sunday, they
are aware they
got
that wrong and
are working
with the AMA
to fix it.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Peter+</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">On
Fri, Jan 15,
2016 at 7:10
PM, Dana
Beaton via
NSRCA-discussion
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>>
wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">6.e
is a real
eye-opener,
and a lot less
ambiguous than
91-57 was
in its
original form.
Will be
interesting to
see what AMA
gas to say
about
it. Thanks
for the link!<br>
<br>
Sent from my
iPad</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><br>
On Jan 15,
2016, at 7:59
PM, Mking via
NSRCA-discussion
<<a
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wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Has
anyone from
the AMA
commented on
the new FAA
Advisory
Circular
91-57A Change
1?</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_91-57A_Ch_1.pdf"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_91-57A_Ch_1.pdf">http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_91-57A_Ch_1.pdf</a></a><br>
<br>
Marty King</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">A&P/IA</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mking@kingaeroaviation.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mking@kingaeroaviation.com">mking@kingaeroaviation.com</a></a></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">King
Aero Aviation,
Inc.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">574-304-5781</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Shop:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">24751
US 6</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Nappanee,
Indiana 46550</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Office:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">56632
Boss Blvd</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Elkhart,
Indiana 46516</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.kingaeroaviation.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kingaeroaviation.com">www.kingaeroaviation.com</a></a></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><br>
On Jan 15,
2016, at 8:32
PM, John
Pavlick via
NSRCA-discussion
<<a
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>>
wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">And
to that end I
PROMISE not to
shoot anyone
unless they
actually break
into my house.
Now is it OK
if I buy some
30 round mag’s
for my
AR-15? LOL</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">John
Pavlick</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Cell:
203-417-4971</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"><image001.png></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Integrated
Development
Services</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black">
NSRCA-discussion
[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>]
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Ed Alt
via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Friday,
January 15,
2016 7:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Dave Lockhart<br>
<b>Cc:</b>
General
pattern
discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
Update - UAS
Registration
Frequently
Asked
Questions |
AMA Government
Relations Blog</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">But
Dave, did you
like your
doctor? The
promise was
"if
you like your
doctor, you
can keep your
doctor".</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><br>
On Jan 15,
2016, at 7:06
PM, Dave
Lockhart <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:davel322@comcast.net"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:davel322@comcast.net">davel322@comcast.net</a></a>>
wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I
have lots of
video
promising I
can keep my
doctor……</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">
NSRCA-discussion
[<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>]
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Ed Alt
via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Friday,
January 15,
2016 6:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Peter Vogel
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a></a>>;
John Gayer
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a></a>>;
NSRCA List
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
Update - UAS
Registration
Frequently
Asked
Questions |
AMA Government
Relations Blog</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Anyone
get that on
video? It's
just hearsay
until they put
it into their
regulations.
Meanwhile,
we're signing
up to a
promise not
to exceed
400'. It
would be nice
to have that
video for the
trial.
lol</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Date:
Fri, 15 Jan
2016 15:39:07
-0800<br>
To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a></a>; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></a><br>
Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion]
Update - UAS
Registration
Frequently
Asked
Questions |
AMA Government
Relations Blog<br>
From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Yep.
This was
brought up
directly with
the FAA guy at
the
AMA Expo, he
indicated that
they got the
400' thing
wrong and will
be working
to clarify
their
guidance. The
guidance on
the web site
right now is
for
people not
flying under
an approved
set of rules
from a
community
based
organization
like the AMA.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Peter+</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">On
Fri, Jan 15,
2016 at 3:32
PM, John Gayer
via
NSRCA-discussion
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wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">This is what the
AMA says about
the 400
foot barrier
on the FAQs
page:<br>
<br>
</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="line-height:16.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:
baseline"><strong><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"inherit","serif";
color:#333333;border:none
windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">Q:
Am I permitted
to
fly above 400
feet? What if
I had to check
a box saying
otherwise on
the
federal
registration
website?</span></strong><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="line-height:16.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:
baseline;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">A:
Yes. AMA
members who
abide
by the AMA
Safety Code,
which permits
flights above
400 feet under
appropriate
circumstances,
and are
protected by
the Special
Rule for Model
Aircraft under
the 2012 FAA
Modernization
and Reform
Act. Checking
the box on the
federal
registration
webpage
signifies an
understanding
of the 400
foot
guideline.
This
is an
important
safety
principle that
all UAS
operators need
to be aware
of,
and is the
same guideline
established in
AC 91-57
published in
1981. However,
the placement
of this
guideline on
the FAA
website is
intended as an
educational
piece and more
specifically
intended for
those
operating
outside of
AMA’s safey
program. We
have been in
discussions
with the FAA
about this
point and the
agency has
indicted that
it will be
updating its
website in the
next week to
make clear
that this
altitude
guideline is
not intended
to
supplant the
guidance and
safety
procedures
established in
AMA’s safety
program.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><br>
Sounds clear,
right? No 400
foot barrier
need apply.<br>
However, the
following is
what you have
to "read,
understand and
follow",
according to
the FAA.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h1
style="text-align:center;background:whitesmoke"
align="center"><span
style="font-size:21.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;
font-weight:normal">Acknowledgement of Safety Guidance</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<ul
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will fly below 400 feet</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will fly within visual line of sight</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will be aware of FAA airspace requirements: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.faa.gov/go/uastfr"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.faa.gov/go/uastfr">www.faa.gov/go/uastfr</a></a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will not fly directly over people</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will not fly over stadiums and sports events</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will not fly near emergency response efforts
such as fires</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will not fly near aircraft, especially near
airports</span><span
style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#141414;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:14.5pt">I will not fly under the influence</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
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style="border:none;border-bottom:solid
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0in">
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/publications/model_aircraft_operators/"
target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Learn More</span></a></span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:15.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">[ ] I
have read,
understand and
intend to
follow the
safety
guidance.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
Under the
"learn more"
link, we find
the following:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h2
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:17.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333">Model
Aircraft
Operations
Limits</span><span
style="font-family:
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="line-height:15.75pt;background:white;text-align:
start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333">According
to the FAA
Modernization
and Reform Act
of 2012 as (1)
the aircraft
is flown
strictly for
hobby or
recreational
use; (2) the
aircraft
is operated in
accordance
with a
community-based
set of safety
guidelines and
within the
programming of
a nationwide
community-based
organization;
(3) the
aircraft is
limited to not
more than 55
pounds unless
otherwise
certified
through a
design,
construction,
inspection,
flight test,
and
operational
safety
program
administered
by a
community-based
organization;
(4) the
aircraft is
operated in a
manner that
does not
interfere with
and gives way
to any manned
aircraft; (5)
when flown
within 5 miles
of an airport,
the operator
of the
aircraft
provides the
airport
operator and
the airport
air traffic
control
tower…with
prior notice
of the
operation; and
(6) the
aircraft is
flown within
visual line
sight of the
operator.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul
type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;line-height:15.75pt;mso-list:l0
level1
lfo2;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faa.gov/exit/?pageName=More%20information%20about%20safety%20and%20training%20guidelines&pgLnk=http://www.modelaircraft.org/"
target="_blank"><span style="color:#2353BA;text-decoration:none">More
information
about safety
and training
guidelines</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;line-height:15.75pt;mso-list:l0
level1
lfo2;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faa.gov/exit/?pageName=Visit%20knowbeforeyoufly.org&pgLnk=http://www.knowbeforeyoufly.org/"
target="_blank"><span style="color:#2353BA;text-decoration:none">Visit
knowbeforeyoufly.org</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="line-height:15.75pt;background:white;text-align:
start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="line-height:15.75pt;background:white;text-align:
start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#3333FF">This
implies that
the 400 foot
barrier is not
a limit for
model
aircraft and
also refers
you back to
the AMA FAQs
above. Since
the
"learn more"
link
eventually
refers you
back to the
AMA position
on
400 feet under
the "more info
about safety"
link, it very
fuzzily
appears to be
supporting the
position that
we can still
fly pattern
without lying
to the FAA
even though we
appear to be
agreeing to
such a limit
in the
"Acknowledgement".</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="xecxmsonormal"
style="line-height:15.75pt;background:white;text-align:
start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#3333FF">Guess
I'll register.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">On
1/15/2016 3:56
PM,
Patternpilot
One via
NSRCA-discussion
wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Here
is what I got
from Mark
Radcliff just
after
midnight
Monday
morning.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">He
was at the
Expo. It has
been posted
all over
Facebook.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"> </span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/">http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/</a></a>
</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black"> </span><span
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Sa.</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black"> </span><span
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color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black"> </span><span
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color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757">Sent
from my
Verizon
Wireless 4G
LTE smartphone</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black"> </span><span
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Director,
Fixed Wing
Flight
Training</span><span
style="font-family:
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Santa
Clara County
Model Aircraft
Skypark</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Associate
Vice
President,
Academy of
Model
Aeronautics
District X</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="xecxmsonormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black">Treasurer,
National
Society of
Radio Control
Aerobatics
(NSRCA)</span><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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