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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Typing is easier than building Matt! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt K
via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently
Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Geez Wheeez.... just register your crates already. I just
registered and </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>None of the Bovine Skat will change how I fly mine.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I really don't get what all the
hubbub's about. So many of you have spent countless hours drafting,
redrafting and word smithing the hell out of your postings. I counted about 700
emails about this subject which I deleted over the past 6 weeks or so. They
cluttered my inbox, spam box and trash box so bad I got nastygrams from
AOL. Like I said....GEEZ WHEEEEEEEZ!!!<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Dana Beaton via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
To: Ron Hansen <rcpilot@wowway.com>; General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Cc: John Pavlick <jpavlick26@att.net><br>
Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 8:16 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>The AMA has been fighting the good fight for years now, alas is
outnumbered, outgunned and outspent by the aerospace industry that wants to
further commercialize the NAS for UAS use; and the constituencies that wish to
fly UAS in the NAS commercially. The stuff going on in congress is the
result of a lot of heavy-duty, big-spender lobbying efforts that largely
overlook our hobby as irrelevant to their vision of the near future as they are
setting-up shop. While we see the FAA as the other side of things, in
reality they are in the middle of a lot of well-funded UAS interests and
uneducated drone consumers, as are we.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>We are not winning and do not have the resources to win this
battle against aerospace industry interests. We can become skillful and savvy
users of the NAS with AMA’s continued advocacy, if we can see clearly where we
have been as a hobby and where all this is going for the vast majority of
non-hobbyists. We need to re-align our expectations of success to
something that is actually achievable by the AMA. Registration & regulation
is not going away, it’s just starting. We need to switch gears to understand
how to navigate the new era, both with our sUAS model airplanes and
politically. We need to work the system to our best possible advantage to
salvage what is left of our hobby. The Small UAS ship has sailed and we
are down in the cargo hold. Time to work our way up to the deck and avoid
being thrown overboard. We now need to work from the inside as
responsible users of the NAS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That was the statement that really got me pissed too.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The other thing that troubles me is every time they show a
picture of a drone they show a quad copter. Do they realize that the FAA
is also regulating airplanes of basically all sizes? I think not.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In my view a drone should be defined as an aircraft (plane,
heli, quad, etc.) that is equipped with a camera<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><u>and</u><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>gyro whether or not it can be piloted
out of visual range using first-person-viewer technology. All other
aircraft under 55 lbs should be unregulated by the government.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The AMA is clearly not doing a good job of educating congress on
what a drone really is.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This Senator was also not aware that the FAA just started
requiring registration.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I guess we will have to pass the legislation to find out what is
in it!!!!</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>NSRCA-discussion
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Paul Lukas via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, January
20, 2016 1:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'Anthony
Cornacchione'; 'General pattern discussion';<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>jpavlick@idseng.com</span></a>;
'John Pavlick'<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>“We probably don’t need to worry about the commercial
users…because those users are going to be very careful, but for the hobbyist,
or the kid, that can now go and purchase it, and you see the probabilities of
an accident waiting to happen”.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paraphrased but the most frightening words I’ve ever
heard. My blood ran cold when he said this. What commercial sUAS
company is located in Florida that wants hobbyists out of the way?</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The argument about “drones” vs. “plankers” is moot. These
people don’t see or care about the difference.</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I looked up the Commerce, Science, and Transportation committee.
It is headed up by Sen. Thune from South Dakota. I’m going to write Sen.
Thune a letter (since his website would only give me 500 characters…) The
AMA may be talking to the FAA, but they are not talking to congressmen and
senators as far as I’ve seen. These are the people that will give the FAA
the ammunition to end it all. I might be overreacting, but I live a mile
inside the Washington, DC FRZ and they just shut down 14 some odd AMA clubs in
the DC SFRA (technically in September, 2015, but enforced in December).
If Senator Nelson has his way, I don’t think it will end there.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul “I haven’t been grounded this long since I was 12” Lukas</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>NSRCA-discussion
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Anthony Cornacchione via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, January 19,
2016 6:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>jpavlick@idseng.com</span></a>;
John Pavlick <<a href="mailto:jpavlick26@att.net" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>jpavlick26@att.net</span></a>>; General pattern
discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>It's going to get worse. The one thing we've been clinging
to is the language in a 4 year old Reauthorization Act that expires in two
months. Here's some senate floor action. Pay attention around the 430
mark to the end. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><a
href="http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4576550/senator-nelsons-speech-drones"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4576550/senator-nelsons-speech-drones</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><br>
On Jan 17, 2016, at 12:58 AM, John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But Matt, I AM building AND contributing to the nonsensical… uh,
what you said! LOL</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><image001.png></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>NSRCA-discussion
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Matthew Kebabjian via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Saturday, January
16, 2016 11:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>John Gayer; General
pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>I thought youse guys had no time to build. This nonsensical
diatribe over the past month or so might hint otherwise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Matt Kebabjian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><br>
On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:43 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>That unit of measure being undefined with a possibility of the
delay being zero, I suggest using the holy hand grenade to eliminate the
intruder.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>On 1/16/2016 3:19 PM, DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>I believe the appropriate unit of measure for the "return
time" is 1 migration cycle for an african swallow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757'>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757'>Dave</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757'>Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><br>
<br>
-------- Original message --------<br>
From: Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></span></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
Date: 01/16/2016 16:14 (GMT-05:00)<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
To: Keith Hoard<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'><klhoard@outlook.com></span></a>,
nsrca-discussion<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></span></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>How long do we have to wait for them to surface, Keith? A
week -- 2 weeks? How long?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Do we have free reign with them after they surface?</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#8B8B8B'>Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Secretary</span></i></strong><b><i><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#8B8B8B'><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>AMA 1294, Scientific
Leader Member</span></strong><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>SPA L-18, Board Member</span></strong><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(865) 435-1476v
(865) 604-0541c</span></strong></span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>We must give them the “float test”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Throw them and their multi-rotors in the AMA pond in Muncie.
If they float, then they're a witch. If they don’t return to the surface,
then they're OK.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sent from<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550987" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>Outlook Mail</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>for
Windows 10 phone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman \,serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><br>
<b>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion</span></a><br>
<b>Sent:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Saturday, January
16, 2016 12:25<br>
<b>To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b><a
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>Peter
Vogel</span></a>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>NSRCA List</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman \,serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>The multi-rotor scourge is in no way comparable to helis.
Heli's require smarts, skill, patience. They exist for entirely
different reasons than do autonomous multi-rotor stuff. This is entirely
different. It's a completely incompatible activity at an RC field if a
dozen or so Joe Blow's show up with them. They aren't hobbyists and you will
scarcely get converts.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Ed</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:17:35 +0000<br>
From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>vogel.peter@gmail.com</span></a><br>
To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>burtona@atmc.net</span></a>;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>ed_alt@hotmail.com</span></a>;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Same arguments were made regarding helicopters at many fields.
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Fundamentally, if a multi rotor pilot comes to the field (and they
have), I'm going to welcome them and teach them the rules of the field (which
includes the AMA safety code and how to react when full scale flys by low on
their way to the airfield 6 miles down the road, or the police helicopter flies
by very low doing speed control on hwy 101). </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>It's our only hope: embrace and educate. The alternative is
shun and lose all opportunity to discourage unsafe/irresponsible use. </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>If you educate one in responsible use, there's a possibility they
will spread that knowledge to others in the community of multi rotor pilots.
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Peter+</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sent from<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="https://aka.ms/qtex0l" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>Outlook
Mobile</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:05 AM -0800, "Ed Alt via
NSRCA-discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>>
wrote:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Dave:<br>
<br>
Yeah, I know that idiots are the problem. Until we figure out how to fix
stupid, we should separate ourselves from the stuff that those idiots are drawn
to. There's no particular reason for some clown from the non-modeling public to
come to an AMA flying field. Nothing much to video, right? We'll
never, ever attract them to the AMA in any kind of meaningful numbers and
actually, God help us if we did. Good flying fields are hard enough to
come by. Do you really want to be competing for air time against dozens
of bozos who might show up just to fly a multi-rotor? No thanks.<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Ed</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>burtona@atmc.net</span></a><br>
To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>ed_alt@hotmail.com</span></a>;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br>
Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<br>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:48:12 -0500</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Multi rotors are not the problem. Idiots are the problem. We
have a few idiots flying every type of model. I've seen an idiot chasing after
a small full scale trying to get close. That was with some kind of sport
airplane. Would you keep a guy away from an AMA field if he brought out a
Giant scale, a pattern plane, and a multi rotor to fly all of them. I'm of the
opinion I'd rather have multi rotors at an AMA field environment rather than a
mall parking lot or somewhere else just a stupid.</span><span style='color:
black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dave</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>NSRCA-discussion
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Saturday, January
16, 2016 11:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>John Gayer; Larry
Diamond; NSRCA List<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This
is why it's a mistake to continue to allow multi-rotor (actual) drones at any
AMA flying field. It doesn't matter that most AMA members are very
responsible. It takes perhaps only one full scale incident and we could
be done. I think that if you've got them, take them somewhere else.
</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Ed</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>To:<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>ldiamond@diamondrc.com</span></a>;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 09:19:42 -0700<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<br>
From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br>
<br>
The only time there will be a problem is with full-scale incidents. You then
have a pilot saying he was at 600 feet and this "drone" shot past him
vertically and it looked like the "drone" was trying to hit him. Then
the only issue is who was flying the model. That is relatively simple at an AMA
field given a description of the model.<br>
<br>
A few incidents like that and we will have a hard 400 foot limit (or lower).<br>
<br>
John</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On
1/16/2016 3:25 AM, Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion wrote:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The 400’ foot discussion has been interesting to follow.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Think about how they would enforce this if it were regulation
and you were at a flying site.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1)</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If they show up to the flying
site, they would be conspicuous with equipment trying to document the fact you
are above 400’. They must have physical evidence for it to stand up in court if
the citation is issued. You simply bring your plan down to 400’ or don’t fly.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2)</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If they were off site, it is
no different than issuing speeding tickets. They must have evidence the plane
they document belongs to you and they must be able to demonstrate a violation
occurred and the history to show it is you without question. This will not be
enforceable if they can’t testify you were physically flying the drone over
400’.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>a.</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Example: An enforcement
officer locks there radar on you for speeding. The officer is charged with the
responsibility of maintaining a visual on you (history) or have video to show
your vehicle was the one speeding. If it is only a video correlation, they must
be able to demonstrate (testify) it was you driving and not somebody else,
typically pulling you over within a couple of minutes. If this can’t be
demonstrated (testified) to the level of beyond reasonable doubt, the
charge/citation will not stick and it will be dismissed.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Were the 400’ policy does get enforced with certainty will be a
post mortem event. i.e. midair collision… Outside of this type of event, it
will be very difficult to police and enforce.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is one thing to have a policy out there. It is much different
when the policy is executed and then tested in the court system.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Over simplified but the point is clear for me.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As my favorite comedian always says, “It is only my opinion, I
could be wrong”.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Larry</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>NSRCA-discussion
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Dana Beaton via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, January 15,
2016 9:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Peter Vogel<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'><vogel.peter@gmail.com></span></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>John Pavlick<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:jpavlick26@att.net"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'><jpavlick26@att.net></span></a>;
General pattern discussion<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I
hear you but every time the 400' thing comes up again it's in the wrong
direction and the reassurances carry no weight whatsoever in light of what has
been published for us to observe to date. The distinctions will be costly
for any one individual to make if unlucky to find oneself in a process.
While our risk may be low flying at our club fields, times have
definitely changed...</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The
ERAU UAS course is also a real eye-opener in many respects. I think it is
still open if anyone is interested. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
On Jan 15, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Peter Vogel <<a
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>vogel.peter@gmail.com</span></a>>
wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>6.e
uses the word "should", not "must" and that's a very
important legal distinction, making that a guideline, not a requirement.
Further, as they said on Sunday, they are aware they got that wrong and are
working with the AMA to fix it.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Peter+</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On
Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Dana Beaton via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;
margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>6.e
is a real eye-opener, and a lot less ambiguous than 91-57 was in its original
form. Will be interesting to see what AMA gas to say about it. Thanks for
the link!<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Mking via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Has
anyone from the AMA commented on the new FAA Advisory Circular 91-57A Change 1?</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_91-57A_Ch_1.pdf"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_91-57A_Ch_1.pdf</span></a><br>
<br>
Marty King</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>A&P/IA</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="mailto:mking@kingaeroaviation.com" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mking@kingaeroaviation.com</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>King
Aero Aviation, Inc.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>574-304-5781</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Shop:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>24751
US 6</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Nappanee,
Indiana 46550</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Office:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>56632
Boss Blvd</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Elkhart,
Indiana 46516</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://www.kingaeroaviation.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:
#954F72'>www.kingaeroaviation.com</span></a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:32 PM, John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And to that end I PROMISE not to shoot anyone unless they
actually break into my house. Now is it OK if I buy some 30 round mag’s for my
AR-15? LOL</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><image001.png></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>NSRCA-discussion
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, January 15,
2016 7:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Dave Lockhart<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>General pattern
discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>But
Dave, did you like your doctor? The promise was "if you like your
doctor, you can keep your doctor".</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Dave Lockhart <<a
href="mailto:davel322@comcast.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>davel322@comcast.net</span></a>>
wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have lots of video promising I can keep my doctor……</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>NSRCA-discussion
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, January 15,
2016 6:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Peter Vogel <<a
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>vogel.peter@gmail.com</span></a>>;
John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>jgghome@comcast.net</span></a>>; NSRCA List <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA
Government Relations Blog</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Anyone
get that on video? It's just hearsay until they put it into their
regulations. Meanwhile, we're signing up to a promise not to exceed 400'.
It would be nice to have that video for the trial. lol</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Date:
Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:39:07 -0800<br>
To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>jgghome@comcast.net</span></a>;<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<br>
From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Yep.
This was brought up directly with the FAA guy at the AMA Expo, he indicated
that they got the 400' thing wrong and will be working to clarify their
guidance. The guidance on the web site right now is for people not flying
under an approved set of rules from a community based organization like the
AMA.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Peter+</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On
Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:32 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;
margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This
is what the AMA says about the 400 foot barrier on the FAQs page:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:16.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:
baseline'><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:#333333;
border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>Q: Am I permitted to fly above 400
feet? What if I had to check a box saying otherwise on the federal registration
website?</span></strong><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:16.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:
baseline'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>A: Yes. AMA members who abide by the AMA Safety Code, which
permits flights above 400 feet under appropriate circumstances, and are
protected by the Special Rule for Model Aircraft under the 2012 FAA
Modernization and Reform Act. Checking the box on the federal registration
webpage signifies an understanding of the 400 foot guideline. This is an
important safety principle that all UAS operators need to be aware of, and is
the same guideline established in AC 91-57 published in 1981. However, the
placement of this guideline on the FAA website is intended as an educational
piece and more specifically intended for those operating outside of AMA’s safey
program. We have been in discussions with the FAA about this point and
the agency has indicted that it will be updating its website in the next week
to make clear that this altitude guideline is not intended to supplant the
guidance and safety procedures established in AMA’s safety program.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
Sounds clear, right? No 400 foot barrier need apply.<br>
However, the following is what you have to "read, understand and
follow", according to the FAA.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<h1 align=center style='text-align:center;background:whitesmoke;background-position:
initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><span style='font-size:21.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Acknowledgement
of Safety Guidance</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will fly
below 400 feet</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will fly
within visual line of sight</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will be
aware of FAA airspace requirements: <a
href="http://www.faa.gov/go/uastfr" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>www.faa.gov/go/uastfr</span></a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
directly over people</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
over stadiums and sports events</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
near emergency response efforts such as fires</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
near aircraft, especially near airports</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
under the influence</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid #EEEEEE 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 15.0pt 0in'>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/publications/model_aircraft_operators/"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72;text-decoration:none'>Learn More</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:15.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>[ ] I have read, understand and intend to follow the
safety guidance.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
Under the "learn more" link, we find the following:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<h2 style='background:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:
initial initial'><span style='font-size:17.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Model Aircraft Operations Limits</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt;background:white'><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>According
to the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 as (1) the aircraft is flown
strictly for hobby or recreational use; (2) the aircraft is operated in
accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the
programming of a nationwide community-based organization; (3) the aircraft is
limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design,
construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program
administered by a community-based organization; (4) the aircraft is operated in
a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; (5)
when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides
the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower…with prior
notice of the operation; and (6) the aircraft is flown within visual line sight
of the operator.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;line-height:15.75pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;
background:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:
initial initial'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://www.faa.gov/exit/?pageName=More%20information%20about%20safety%20and%20training%20guidelines&pgLnk=http://www.modelaircraft.org/"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#2353BA;text-decoration:none'>More
information about safety and training guidelines</span></a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;line-height:15.75pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;
background:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:
initial initial'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://www.faa.gov/exit/?pageName=Visit%20knowbeforeyoufly.org&pgLnk=http://www.knowbeforeyoufly.org/"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#2353BA;text-decoration:none'>Visit
knowbeforeyoufly.org</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt;background:white'><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt;background:white'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>This implies that the
400 foot barrier is not a limit for model aircraft and also refers you back to
the AMA FAQs above. Since the "learn more" link eventually
refers you back to the AMA position on 400 feet under the "more info about
safety" link, it very fuzzily appears to be supporting the position
that we can still fly pattern without lying to the FAA even though we appear to
be agreeing to such a limit in the "Acknowledgement".</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt;background:white'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>Guess I'll register.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On
1/15/2016 3:56 PM, Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion wrote:</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Here
is what I got from Mark Radcliff just after midnight Monday morning.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>He
was at the Expo. It has been posted all over Facebook.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sa.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757'>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='color:black'><a
href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote>
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target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a></span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>--<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Director,
Fixed Wing Flight Training</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Santa
Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Associate
Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Treasurer,
National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black;
border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><image001.jpg><image002.jpg></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>
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target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>
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style='color:#954F72'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br>
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target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>--<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Director,
Fixed Wing Flight Training</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Santa
Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Associate
Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Treasurer,
National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><image001.jpg><image002.jpg></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
style='color:black'>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
style='color:black'><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
style='color:black'><a
href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#954F72'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote>
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