<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><font size="2" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Geez Wheeez.... just register your crates already. I just registered and </font><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">None of the Bovine Skat will change how I fly mine.</span>
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<div><font size="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I really don't get what all the hubbub's about. So many of you have spent countless hours drafting, redrafting and word smithing the hell out of your postings. I counted about 700 emails about this subject which I deleted over the past 6 weeks or so. They cluttered my inbox, spam box and trash box so bad I got nastygrams from AOL. Like I said....GEEZ WHEEEEEEEZ!!!</font></font><br>
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From: Dana Beaton via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
To: Ron Hansen <rcpilot@wowway.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Cc: John Pavlick <jpavlick26@att.net><br>
Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 8:16 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<br>
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<div class="">The AMA has been fighting the good fight for years now, alas is outnumbered, outgunned and outspent by the aerospace industry that wants to further commercialize the NAS for UAS use; and the constituencies that wish to fly UAS in the NAS commercially. The stuff going on in congress is the result of a lot of heavy-duty, big-spender lobbying efforts that largely overlook our hobby as irrelevant to their vision of the near future as they are setting-up shop. While we see the FAA as the other side of things, in reality they are in the middle of a lot of well-funded UAS interests and uneducated drone consumers, as are we.</div>
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<div class="">We are not winning and do not have the resources to win this battle against aerospace industry interests. We can become skillful and savvy users of the NAS with AMA’s continued advocacy, if we can see clearly where we have been as a hobby and where all this is going for the vast majority of non-hobbyists. We need to re-align our expectations of success to something that is actually achievable by the AMA. Registration & regulation is not going away, it’s just starting. We need to switch gears to understand how to navigate the new era, both with our sUAS model airplanes and politically. We need to work the system to our best possible advantage to salvage what is left of our hobby. The Small UAS ship has sailed and we are down in the cargo hold. Time to work our way up to the deck and avoid being thrown overboard. We now need to work from the inside as responsible users of the NAS.</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">That was the statement that really got me pissed too.</span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The other thing that troubles me is every time they show a picture of a drone they show a quad copter. Do they realize that the FAA is also regulating airplanes of basically all sizes? I think not.</span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">In my view a drone should be defined as an aircraft (plane, heli, quad, etc.) that is equipped with a camera<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">and</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>gyro whether or not it can be piloted out of visual range using first-person-viewer technology. All other aircraft under 55 lbs should be unregulated by the government.</span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The AMA is clearly not doing a good job of educating congress on what a drone really is.</span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">This Senator was also not aware that the FAA just started requiring registration.</span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I guess we will have to pass the legislation to find out what is in it!!!!</span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I looked up the Commerce, Science, and Transportation committee. It is headed up by Sen. Thune from South Dakota. I’m going to write Sen. Thune a letter (since his website would only give me 500 characters…) The AMA may be talking to the FAA, but they are not talking to congressmen and senators as far as I’ve seen. These are the people that will give the FAA the ammunition to end it all. I might be overreacting, but I live a mile inside the Washington, DC FRZ and they just shut down 14 some odd AMA clubs in the DC SFRA (technically in September, 2015, but enforced in December). If Senator Nelson has his way, I don’t think it will end there.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="" target="_blank" href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net">burtona@atmc.net</a><br class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="" target="_blank" href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">ed_alt@hotmail.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class="">Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<br class="">Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:48:12 -0500</span></div>
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<div class="xecxmsonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="" href="mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com">ldiamond@diamondrc.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class="">Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 09:19:42 -0700<br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<br class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class=""><br class="">The only time there will be a problem is with full-scale incidents. You then have a pilot saying he was at 600 feet and this "drone" shot past him vertically and it looked like the "drone" was trying to hit him. Then the only issue is who was flying the model. That is relatively simple at an AMA field given a description of the model.<br class=""><br class="">A few incidents like that and we will have a hard 400 foot limit (or lower).<br class=""><br class="">John</span></div>
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