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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And to that end I PROMISE not to shoot anyone unless they actually
break into my house. Now is it OK if I buy some 30 round mag’s for my AR-15?
LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><img width=90 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.png@01D14FD3.DA7835E0" alt=idslogo2><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed Alt
via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 15, 2016 7:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dave Lockhart<br>
<b>Cc:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently
Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>But Dave, did you like your doctor?  The promise was
"if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor".<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
On Jan 15, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Dave Lockhart <<a
href="mailto:davel322@comcast.net">davel322@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have lots of video promising I can keep my doctor……</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 15, 2016 6:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>>;
John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>>;
NSRCA List <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently
Asked Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyone
get that on video?  It's just hearsay until they put it into their
regulations.  Meanwhile, we're signing up to a promise not to exceed 400'.
 It would be nice to have that video for the trial.  lol</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Date:
Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:39:07 -0800<br>
To: <a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>; <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Update - UAS Registration Frequently Asked
Questions | AMA Government Relations Blog<br>
From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Yep. 
This was brought up directly with the FAA guy at the AMA Expo, he indicated
that they got the 400' thing wrong and will be working to clarify their
guidance.  The guidance on the web site right now is for people not flying
under an approved set of rules from a community based organization like the AMA.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Peter+</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Fri, Jan
15, 2016 at 3:32 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This is
what the AMA says about the 400 foot barrier on the FAQs page:<br>
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baseline'><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"inherit","serif";
color:#333333;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>Q: Am I permitted to
fly above 400 feet? What if I had to check a box saying otherwise on the
federal registration website?</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:16.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:
baseline;font-stretch:inherit;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>A: Yes.
AMA members who abide by the AMA Safety Code, which permits flights above 400
feet under appropriate circumstances, and are protected by the Special Rule for
Model Aircraft under the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. Checking the
box on the federal registration webpage signifies an understanding of the 400
foot guideline. This is an important safety principle that all UAS operators
need to be aware of, and is the same guideline established in AC 91-57
published in 1981. However, the placement of this guideline on the FAA website
is intended as an educational piece and more specifically intended for those
operating outside of AMA’s safey program.  We have been in discussions
with the FAA about this point and the agency has indicted that it will be
updating its website in the next week to make clear that this altitude
guideline is not intended to supplant the guidance and safety procedures
established in AMA’s safety program.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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Sounds clear, right? No 400 foot barrier need apply.<br>
However, the following is what you have to "read, understand and
follow", according to the FAA.<br>
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</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<h1 align=center style='text-align:center;background:whitesmoke'><span
style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#006DB5;font-weight:
normal'>Acknowledgement of Safety Guidance</span><o:p></o:p></h1>

<ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will fly
     below 400 feet</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will fly
     within visual line of sight</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will be
     aware of FAA airspace requirements: <a
     href="http://www.faa.gov/go/uastfr" target="_blank"><span
     style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#006DB5;text-decoration:none'>www.faa.gov/go/uastfr</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
     directly over people</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
     over stadiums and sports events</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
     near emergency response efforts such as fires</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
     near aircraft, especially near airports</span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#141414;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span
     style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I will not fly
     under the influence</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/publications/model_aircraft_operators/"
target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#006DB5;
text-decoration:none'>Learn More</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:15.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>[ ] I
have read, understand and intend to follow the safety guidance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>
Under the "learn more" link, we find the following:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<h2 style='background:white'><span style='font-size:17.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Model Aircraft Operations Limits</span><o:p></o:p></h2>

<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt;background:white;text-align:start;
word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>According to the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 as (1)
the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use; (2) the aircraft
is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and
within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization; (3) the
aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified
through a design, construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety
program administered by a community-based organization; (4) the aircraft is
operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned
aircraft; (5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the
aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport air traffic control
tower…with prior notice of the operation; and (6) the aircraft is flown within
visual line sight of the operator.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;line-height:15.75pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6;background:white'><span
     style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
     href="http://www.faa.gov/exit/?pageName=More%20information%20about%20safety%20and%20training%20guidelines&pgLnk=http://www.modelaircraft.org/"
     target="_blank"><span style='color:#2353BA;text-decoration:none'>More
     information about safety and training guidelines</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;line-height:15.75pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6;background:white'><span
     style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
     href="http://www.faa.gov/exit/?pageName=Visit%20knowbeforeyoufly.org&pgLnk=http://www.knowbeforeyoufly.org/"
     target="_blank"><span style='color:#2353BA;text-decoration:none'>Visit
     knowbeforeyoufly.org</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>

<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt;background:white;text-align:start;
word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.75pt;background:white;text-align:start;
word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>This
implies that the 400 foot barrier is not a limit for model aircraft and also
refers you back to the AMA FAQs above.  Since the "learn more"
link eventually refers you back to the AMA position on 400 feet under the
"more info about safety"  link, it very fuzzily appears to be
supporting the position that we can still fly pattern without lying to the FAA
even though we appear to be agreeing to such a limit in the "Acknowledgement".</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:15.75pt;background:
white;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#3333FF'>Guess I'll register.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On
1/15/2016 3:56 PM, Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Here is
what I got from Mark Radcliff just after  midnight Monday morning.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>He was at
the Expo.  It has been posted all over Facebook.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/"
target="_blank">http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sa.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#575757'>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Director,
Fixed Wing Flight Training</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Santa Clara
County Model Aircraft Skypark</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Associate
Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Treasurer,
National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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