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<div class="">Any aircraft weighing under 247 lbs. requires no licensing to fly....unless carrying more than one person (pilot).  Ultralights fall into this category.</div>
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<div class="begin_alto_quote"></div>From: Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div>
<div class="">Date: 1/6/2016 3:14 PM (GMT-08:00) </div>
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<div class="">Cc: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div>
<div class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Drone for (short) commutes </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I'm not sure I would call it "manned" -- the user has no control other than telling it to "takeoff" and "pause flight" and "land"
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Atwood, Mark <span dir="ltr" class="">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Doesn’t this fall under experimental aircraft like all the other personal Heli’s and such?    It’s not a drone for sure… it’s a manned Quad-copter.  
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Can't wait to see what the FAA has to say about this one!  The 184 (1 person, 8 propellers, 4 arms) capable of 23 minute flights with a person up to 260lbs -- good for about a 10 mile commute.
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