<div dir="ltr">I had a derogatory word after that sentence but deleted it as inappropriate.  I hate to ask but with that 400 ft ceiling, is today the day pattern dies?  Let's hope the AMA can force an edit to that Acknowledgment of Safety Guidance because I won't agree to the terms.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="151c6fcad56b8551__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Not sure I would use the word “revolutionize” . . . <u></u><u></u></span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--Keith Hoard<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target="_blank">klhoard@outlook.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Smith via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 21, 2015 17:58<br><b>To:</b> John Ford <<a href="mailto:astropattern@yahoo.com" target="_blank">astropattern@yahoo.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">So you agreed to fly under 400 ft?  Man, this is a huge problem...amazing how quads revolutionized our hobby! <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:47 PM, John Ford via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Took me only a few minutes. The site worked well.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">J<br><br>Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Dec 21, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Patrick Harris via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Who's on First?  <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jan 20th is the end of the free period.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The Feb date is when aircraft prior to December 21st have to register. Any aircraft after today has to be registered right away...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">That's what I saw on the site.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sa<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Date: 12/21/2015 6:05 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The FAA site says January 20th, not February I think that is what I saw?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size="3" width="98%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 21, 2015 1:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ihncheol; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue">Remember, AMA is not telling you do not register, they're telling you to wait until they figure out what, if anything, they can do about it OR register at the deadline in February.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#3333ff">Scott A. McHarg</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Texas A&M University<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">PPL - ASEL<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Ihncheol via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Link that Scott provided took 3 different clicks to work after waiting at least 5min plus each time.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Then, Confirming  the account by clicking on the link I got in an email takes forever.  Been waiting for the last 30 min.  Still a blank.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Does FAA really think  this will work?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Also about AMA telling us not to register, I don't worry about local here.  However, those who are close to large metro area that FAA may monitor regularly, does AMA going to cover the fine if they are caught not registered while  AMA tells us what to do? <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Ihncheol<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#575757">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note® II<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From: DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Date:12/21/2015 2:37 PM (GMT-06:00) <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">To: Keith Hoard , General pattern discussion <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Maybe the rumors are true and the UAS site was setup by the good folks behind <a href="http://healthcare.gov" target="_blank">healthcare.gov</a>......<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#575757">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#575757"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#575757">Dave<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#575757"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#575757">Please pardon any spelling errors or brevity.....Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Date: 12/21/2015 15:27 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><a name="151c6fcad56b8551_151c6f19bda53b10_151c6d2fadbec148_151c65"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hmmmmm, what a perfect phishing site . . . .  </span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’d LOL all the way to my holding cell.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--Keith Hoard</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" target="_blank">klhoard@outlook.com</a></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor blue"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 21, 2015 14:21<br><b>To:</b> Scott McHarg <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Out of idle curiosity, how did you find this link?<br>There seems to be no path to it from   <a href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/" target="_blank">http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/</a><br><br>Also the link below either doesn't work or can't handle the load.<br><br>John<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On 12/21/2015 12:45 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue">Looks like this is the link?????</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:blue"><a href="https://registermyuas.faa.gov/" target="_blank">https://registermyuas.faa.gov/</a></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Scott A. McHarg</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Texas A&M University<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">PPL - ASEL<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">_______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<u></u><u></u></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrc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