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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>We can argue semantics, but if you fly R/C events such as soaring, RC Assist Old Timer, Pattern, etc in which you routinely bust 400ft because that's what you must do in order to do well in the event, what are you going to tell the Feds when they show up at an event and start asking questions- "Yea I signed that I will not fly over 400 ft. but I thought it was just a guideline so I go ahead and fly over 400ft during every competition flight and every flight in which I'm practicing for competition. Really sir, that's only about 700-1000 flights a year. What's the problem?" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Doesn't seem like it will be a comfortable spot to be in. Makes my blood boil thinking about it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 21, 2015 10:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Gayer; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Actually, it would need to say "I shall", not "I will' in order for it to compel you to comply. Don't worry about the 400' guideline so much.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Dec 21, 2015, at 8:08 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Anytime a document says "I will" rather than "I should" or "I will if"<br>and it is something you are signing, be prepared to be held to your word.<br>It may be a guideline before you sign it but not afterwards. What do you think the checkmark is for?<br><br>John<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 12/21/2015 5:38 PM, Ted Sander via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ditto - not a rule or law, it says guideline. Which I will follow anytime I am aware of piloted aircraft in my area.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Dec 21, 2015, at 6:25 PM, John FORD via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca--discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca--discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p>I agreed to observe a guideline, as stated on the certificate.<o:p></o:p></p><p>J<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 21, 2015 5:58 PM, Scott Smith <<a href="mailto:vze23c3q@gmail.com">vze23c3q@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>So you agreed to fly under 400 ft? Man, this is a huge problem...amazing how quads revolutionized our hobby! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:47 PM, John Ford via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Took me only a few minutes. The site worked well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>J<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Dec 21, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Patrick Harris via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Who's on First? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jan 20th is the end of the free period.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The Feb date is when aircraft prior to December 21st have to register. Any aircraft after today has to be registered right away...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That's what I saw on the site.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sa<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Date: 12/21/2015 6:05 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The FAA site says January 20th, not February I think that is what I saw?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 21, 2015 1:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ihncheol; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>Remember, AMA is not telling you do not register, they're telling you to wait until they figure out what, if anything, they can do about it OR register at the deadline in February.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Scott A. McHarg</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Texas A&M University<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>PPL - ASEL<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Ihncheol via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Link that Scott provided took 3 different clicks to work after waiting at least 5min plus each time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Then, Confirming the account by clicking on the link I got in an email takes forever. Been waiting for the last 30 min. Still a blank.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Does FAA really think this will work?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Also about AMA telling us not to register, I don't worry about local here. However, those who are close to large metro area that FAA may monitor regularly, does AMA going to cover the fine if they are caught not registered while AMA tells us what to do? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Ihncheol<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:5.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note® II<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Date:12/21/2015 2:37 PM (GMT-06:00) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>To: Keith Hoard , General pattern discussion <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Maybe the rumors are true and the UAS site was setup by the good folks behind <a href="http://healthcare.gov">healthcare.gov</a>......<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Please pardon any spelling errors or brevity.....Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Date: 12/21/2015 15:27 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='background:white'><a name="151c6f19bda53b10_151c6d2fadbec148_151c65"><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI";color:black'>Hmmmmm, what a perfect phishing site . . . . </span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI";color:black'>I’d LOL all the way to my holding cell.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI";color:black'>--Keith Hoard</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI";color:black'>--<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com">klhoard@outlook.com</a></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei UI";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:rgb(
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)'><p style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 21, 2015 14:21<br><b>To:</b> Scott McHarg <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] UAS registration</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Out of idle curiosity, how did you find this link?<br>There seems to be no path to it from <a href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/">http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/</a><br><br>Also the link below either doesn't work or can't handle the load.<br><br>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On 12/21/2015 12:45 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue'>Looks like this is the link?????</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue'><a href="https://registermyuas.faa.gov/">https://registermyuas.faa.gov/</a></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Scott A. McHarg</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. 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