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Surely the AMA has already done this! There must have been a lot of
papers and correspondence between the FAA and the AMA covering many
of these points that we haven't seen and that have been ignored by
the FAA. <br>
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The biggest problem I see is very basic-<br>
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Lack of definition of UAV types at the FAA. They use all
possibilities interchangeably and throw a large blanket over them
all.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/22/2015 11:57 AM, Scott McHarg
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(0,0,255)">The
thought I wrote Dec. 16th:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><font
color="#ff0000">I think that maybe we, as an organization,
could come up with a "paper" to present to the AMA or the
FAA if we so choose to point out some very obvious facts:</font></div>
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color="#ff0000">A. The registration process will not work
in the manner expected because those who are doing illegal
actions with drones will simply not register as there is
zero way to find that out without inspecting by an agency
that would have to have the manpower to do it.</font></div>
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color="#ff0000">B. By registering only the operator, a
person knowingly flying where they shouldn't be will
simply take out the registration information when
performing illegal activities.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><font
color="#ff0000">C.</font></div>
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color="#ff0000">D.</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><font
color="#ff0000">and so on.</font></div>
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color="#ff0000">Just a thought on how to try to work with
the system. I understand why they're doing it but I don't
think for one second that this will change the problem
children in the least, especially those who don't know.
Like many have said, the problem is those that are
uneducated about etiquette with these models. Before
online purchasing became so big (and to the detriment of
local hobby shops), people would go to these local hobby
shops and be directed to the local AMA field where folks
began to understand how this all worked. Now, they just
purchase these things online. Due to advancing
technology, you no longer have to know how to be a pilot,
you simply program in the waypoints and sit back and
watch. With today's gyro's, the aircraft is always
stable. </font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><font
color="#ff0000">The FAA needs to be educated on the how's
and why's as well as the operator in today's society.</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><font
color="#0000ff">It's not really about the numbers. We all
have plenty of numbers in our life. The physical number
doesn't matter and isn't what people are upset about.
It's about that number being used by people who do bad
things and about being regulated by another agency that
doesn't really understand who or what we, as modelers, are
and do. This rule has been instituted because of people
flying where they're not supposed to whether it be lack of
education or the simple fact they don't care because
there's little chance of them getting caught. Police
officers will be using this and citing parts of laws in
order to give citations and make arrests but the simple
fact is they're not going to be sitting at AMA fields.
They're going to be in parks, in downtown areas, by
airports, etc. Those are the people they're after and we
are just caught in the middle which stinks. We have a
right to be upset that we're caught up but we need to find
a way to deal with this and be positive and certainly
pro-active as Jim suggested. Refusing to click "I accept"
gets you nowhere other than in trouble and fined or out of
the hobby. For me, neither of those are acceptable.</font></div>
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<div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div>
<div>Texas A&M University</div>
<div>PPL - ASEL</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:45 PM, John
Gayer <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#3333FF"> What thought are you
referring to?<br>
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The AMA won't win their argument about numbers. The AMA
could propose a compromise that FAA provide a block of
numbers and that the AMA drop their own numbering system
and convert to those numbers. <br>
Unless the AMA can get model aircraft excluded from
registration. I did propose a different set of UAV
categories way back in this thread. It's obvious from
their publications that the FAA lacks any coherent
definitions.<br>
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<div>On 12/21/2015 1:27 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I find it really interesting that
a lot of us have no problem complaining but when a
thought about putting together a logical, well-founded
paper written to either the AMA or the FAA is presented,
no one comments.</blockquote>
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