<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi Keith, thanks for posting the link to the drone law journal (below), I read it on my lunch break and it is a good read, albeit a bit out of date by now.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Under his "333 Exception Section" (not applicable to us as hobbyists), Sachs posted a nice little list of what may be the Administrator’s concerns. These are good clues to keep in mind as we read through the documents that do pertain to us as hobbyists, and the developments on the regulatory front...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; orphans: 4; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class="">"In making that determination, the Secretary considers:</span></span></p><blockquote style="margin: 1.5em 2.2em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; quotes: none; font-style: italic; line-height: 1.6em; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;" class=""><ul style="margin: 1.5em 2.2em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style: none outside; line-height: 1.5;" class=""><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">What type of drone is it?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">How big is the drone?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">How fast it can fly?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">What can it do and not do (flight capability-wise)?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">How close would it be flying to airports?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">How close would it be flying to populated areas?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Will the drone operator be able to see it at all times?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Will it create a hazard to NAS?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class="">Will it create a hazard to the public?</span></span></span></li><li style="margin: 0px 0px 0.75em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; list-style-type: disc;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 0, 128);" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline;" class=""><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: georgia, serif;" class="">Will it pose a threat to national security?"</span></span></span></li></ul></blockquote></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 18, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The issue is, where do you tell the FAA to put its number?</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">--Keith Hoard<br class="">--<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">klhoard@outlook.com</a></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion</a><br class=""><b class="">Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, December 18, 2015 12:29<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">'General pattern discussion'</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21</div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Just to add to the absurdity of this whole thing: Since I already have my AMA number on one wing and my NSRCA number on the other wing I'm running out of space for "numbers". Where do I put my FAA number??? Should I build biplanes from now on? LOL<br class=""><br class="">John Pavlick<br class="">Cell: 203-417-4971<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Integrated Development Services<br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of John FORD via NSRCA-discussion<br class="">Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:18 PM<br class="">To: General pattern discussion;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">chuenkan@comcast.net</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21<br class=""><br class="">It isn't that cut and dried to 500 feet for full-size aircraft.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">When flying out in the back 40, you need to high enough to make a safe emergency landing and/or at least 500 feet from anyone, in any direction, pretty much.<br class=""><br class="">So if the RC field is out in the boonies, the full scale pilot may legally be OK flying at pretty much any altitude especially if he thinks he is all alone...<br class=""><br class="">John<br class=""><br class="">On Dec 18, 2015 11:56 AM, Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">> Well,, Dana, our "smaller, unmanned aircraft" are supposedly limited to 400' AGL, and "real aircraft" are limited to a lower altitude of 500' AGL, as I understand things. That is 100' of separation, which for our under 55# aircraft is a lot of space. I would not want my pattern plane within 100' of any full-scale aircraft -- air turbulence being as destructive as it is. I land quickly when a helicopter or experimental aircraft comes low over our field, which they sometimes do -- we have even had an ultra-light land on our paved runway -- albeit with prior arrangements with us on the ground.<br class="">><br class="">> Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Secretary<br class="">> AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member<br class="">> SPA L-18, Board Member<br class="">> (865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> ________________________________<br class="">> For those with an appetite for reading into the FARs, would suggest looking into topics like see and avoid, right of way; the basics of navigation and aviation law as they apply to smaller craft giving way to larger craft. We can read with the thought in mind that our smaller craft are unmanned and larger craft typically have souls on board. These sort of mundane things are probably more what the FAA is concerned about as we share the NAS with full scale aircraft. When we put conspiracy theories aside, and our general resistance to onerous regulation, there are some things that do make sense even if we object to how Uncle Sam is going about it. Of course, this is preaching to the choir of elite, highly skilled, precision aerobatic pattern pilots and not the guys out there causing hazards to navigation LOL! I think John Ford is making the right distinctions below, as I myself understand the FARs. Cheers!<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> > On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:43 AM, John FORD via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > Those things apply if you wish to maintain the validity of an airworthiness certificate, which no model airplane under 55 lbs has.<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > The FAA wants to consider models as aircraft in the NAS, not to manage category, class, or airworthiness.<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > J<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > On Dec 18, 2015 10:20 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://dronelawjournal.com/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://dronelawjournal.com/</a><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> There's some light reading for those of you who still think this is just about “putting a number” on our plane. The FAA considers models subject to the same Part 91 rules as full scale planes.<br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> The certificated mechanics on this list can chime in with how many FAA Part 91 violations a typical pattern plane is now out of compliance. Does your 2M plane have a magnetic compass? When is the last time it was swung and documented by an A&P? Does your glow engine have two magnetos? Do you document discrepancies in a logbook? Documented an annual? How about a horizon attitude reference with two power sources? How about a calibrated altimeter and airsoeed indicator? All of that is before you even get the plane out of your truck. How many of you know your VFR cloud clearances?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> --Keith Hoard<br class="">> >> --<a href="mailto:klhoard@outlook.com" class="">klhoard@outlook.com</a><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> From: Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion<br class="">> >> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:52<br class="">> >> To: General pattern discussion<br class="">> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21<br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> That is ridiculous! They wouldn’t knock at the door, they’d knock in in!<br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:03 PM, W Anthony Abdullah via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>> # 4 sounds scary! Something about "immediate and targeted education activities" makes me a little uneasy. A knock at the door at 3:00AM and a nightstick to the head can be pretty educational. Not suggesting they would do that, it just doesn't feel right.<br class="">> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>> Sent from my iPad<br class="">> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Dana Beaton via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">> >>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>> From page 39-40:<br class="">> >>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>> "Registration will 1) make it easier to identify the owners of the aircraft which has been involved in an “incident;” 2) facilitate compliance and education, and when appropriate, enforcement action; 3) encourage accountability by holding owner’s responsible for use and 4) establish a future basis for FAA to engage in immediate and targeted education activities which might not otherwise occur. "<br class="">> >>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>> Sent from my iPad<br class="">> >>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> Sorry, that was page 36 for non-political individuals.<br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> Scott A. McHarg<br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> Texas A&M University<br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> PPL - ASEL<br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Scott McHarg <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" class="">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> According to them.....<br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/2015-12-13_2120-AK82_RIA.pdf" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/2015-12-13_2120-AK82_RIA.pdf</a><br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> "Benefits" start on page 29<br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> Scott A. McHarg<br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> Texas A&M University<br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> PPL - ASEL<br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Ted Sander via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">> >>>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>>> Missing from the official publicity of all this is the “What is this going to do?”. Is there any “official” information about what registration hopes to accomplish (as opposed to the “they’re coming to get us” theories)? Even if it was a page of “Know before you fly” info during the registration process, I would be more supportive. But all I can speculate on is that it is to “Hope we find that one little part that has the registration number on it”. We’ve all seen RC mid-airs and crashes, and know that often full recovery of parts is very difficult. If something bad happens, the odds seem pretty low that even if there is a number, it will be found and traced to the owner, even if there is one!<br class="">> >>>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>>> It would perhaps be better to have the FCC mandate registering receivers/control units that have and “squawk” a unique identifier, than this poorly thought out solution!<br class="">> >>>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">> >>>>>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class="">> >>>>>>> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class="">> >>>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br class="">> >>>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >>>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">> >>>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class="">> >>>>> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class="">> >>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); 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