<div dir="ltr">Because, as I anticipated earlier this week, this is a sufficient "enforcement action" to wake up the lawsuit the AMA filed in 2014 based on the FAA's interpretation document for the special rule for model aviation.<div><br></div><div>Peter+</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Randy Forbus via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:14pt"> You are very correct. On a practical level, I know that the FAA is critically understaffed and underfunded to the point they can barely keep full-scale aviation
policed. However, the nightmare scenario will now be hanging over the heads of every R/C modeler who relies on their full-scale ticket to make a living or who someday hopes to use it to make their living.</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
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<span style="color:blue;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Problem is when the FAA already holds your certification in their hands, what do you do? To stay out of trouble, I may register anyway. I couldn't afford to have the FAA pull my certificate for any
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Peter Vogel <<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Yesterday, the AMA Executive Council unanimously approved an action plan to relieve and further protect our members from unnecessary and burdensome regulations. This plan addresses
the recently announced interim rule requiring federal registration of all model aircraft and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) weighing between 0.55 and 55 pounds.</span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">AMA has long used a similar registration system with our members, which we pointed out during the task force deliberations and in private conversations with the FAA. As you are aware,
AMA's safety program instructs all members to place his or her AMA number or name and address on or within their model aircraft, effectively accomplishing the safety and accountability objectives of the interim rule. AMA has also argued that the new registration
rule runs counter to Congress' intent in Section 336 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, otherwise known as the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft."</span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">The Council is considering all legal and political remedies to address this issue. We believe that resolution to the unnecessary federal registration rule for our members rests with
AMA's petition before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. This petition, filed in August 2014, asks the court to review the FAA's interpretation of the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft." The central issue is whether the FAA has the authority
to expand the definition of aircraft to include model aircraft; thus, allowing the agency to establish new standards and operating criteria to which model aircraft operators have never been subject to in the past.</span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">In promulgating its interim rule for registration earlier this week, the FAA repeatedly stated that model aircraft are aircraft, despite the fact that litigation is pending on this
very question. The Council believes the FAA's reliance on its interpretation of Section 336 for legal authority to compel our members to register warrants the Court's immediate attention to AMA's petition. </span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">While we continue to believe that registration makes sense at some threshold and for flyers operating outside of a community-based organization or flying for commercial purposes,
we also strongly believe our members are not the problem and should not have to bear the burden of additional regulations. Safety has been the cornerstone of our organization for 80 years and AMA's members strive to be a part of the solution. </span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">As we proceed with this process, we suggest AMA members hold off on registering their model aircraft with the FAA until advised by the AMA or until February 19, the FAA's legal deadline
for registering existing model aircraft. </span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Holding off on registration will allow AMA time to fully consider all possible options. On a parallel track, it also allows AMA to complete ongoing conversations with the FAA about
how best to streamline the registration process for our members. </span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">In the near future, we will also be asking our members to make their voices heard by submitting comments to the FAA's interim rule on registration. We will follow-up soon with more
detailed information on how to do this.</span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Thank you for your continued support of AMA. We will provide you with more updates as they become available. </span></p>
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<span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Bob Brown, AMA President<br>
Gary Fitch, AMA Executive Vice President<br>
Andy Argenio, AMA Vice President, District I<br>
Eric Williams, AMA Vice President, District II<br>
Mark Radcliff, AMA Vice President, District III<br>
Jay Marsh, AMA Vice President, District IV<br>
Kris Dixon, AMA Vice President, District V<br>
Randy Cameron, AMA Vice President, District VI<br>
Tim Jesky, AMA Vice President, District VII<br>
Mark Johnston, AMA Vice President, District VIII<br>
Jim Tiller, AMA Vice President, District IX<br>
Lawrence Tougas, AMA Vice President, District X<br>
Chuck Bower, AMA Vice President, District XI</span></p>
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To: "Ted Sander" <<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:tedsander@comcast.net" target="_blank">tedsander@comcast.net</a>>, "General pattern discussion" <<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
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According to them.....<br>
<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/2015-12-13_2120-AK82_RIA.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/2015-12-13_2120-AK82_RIA.pdf</a><br>
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Ted<br>
Sander via NSRCA-discussion <<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
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Missing from the official<br>
publicity of all this is the “What is this going to<br>
do?”. Is there any “official” information about what<br>
registration hopes to accomplish (as opposed to the<br>
“they’re coming to get us” theories)? Even if it was<br>
a page of “Know before you fly” info during the<br>
registration process, I would be more supportive. But all<br>
I can speculate on is that it is to “Hope we find that one<br>
little part that has the registration number on it”. <br>
We’ve all seen RC mid-airs and crashes, and know that<br>
often full recovery of parts is very difficult. If<br>
something bad happens, the odds seem pretty low that even if<br>
there is a number, it will be found and traced to the owner,<br>
even if there is one!It would perhaps be better to have<br>
the FCC mandate registering receivers/control units that<br>
have and “squawk” a unique identifier, than this poorly<br>
thought out<br>
solution!<br>
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