<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-label="Compose body">Thanks, Jon -- that is exactly what I was thinking. I feel sorry for the FAA agent who comes snooping around my contest looking for violators.<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">One thing is clear from this: You can't fix stupid!</div><div><br></div><div><span name="x"></span><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><div style="text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span style="color: #8b8b8b;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: 12px;"><span style="font-size: 11px;"><span style="font-size: 10px;"><em><strong><span style="font-size: 14px;">Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Secretary<br>AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member<br>SPA L-18, Board Member<br>(865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c</span></strong><strong><br></strong></em></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></span></span></span><span name="x"></span><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><p dir="ltr">I see no reason why CDs or clubs need to be involved. This is between the individual and the FAA. Unless AMA makes checking this be a requirement, we should not do anything. I don't recall AMA checking FCC licenses back before the FCC realized that trying to control Citizens Band was as useless as this is.</p><p dir="ltr">Jon</p><p dir="ltr">Jon</p><div class="device_aol_et_org_dt_dd_quote"><br></div><hr style="border:0;height:1px;color:#999;background-color:#999;width:100%;margin:0 0 9px 0;padding:0;" data-mce-style="border: 0; height: 1px; color: #999; background-color: #999; width: 100%; margin: 0 0 9px 0; padding: 0;"><span style="font-size:14px; color:#999999;" data-mce-style="font-size: 14px; color: #999999;">On Monday, December 14, 2015 Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<span style="color:#0000A0" data-mce-style="color: #0000a0;">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span>> wrote:</span><br><div class="aolReplacedBody"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;">Karl,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;">Good questions which need to be addressed, pattern or not. The CD's are going to have to make sure each entrant is registered or offer a way to have them register at the field. The registration # does not replace the AMA # but must be contained in or on the model and accessible without tools. Heck, AMA clubs are going to have to make sure each person flying on a Sunday afternoon is registered. Within the NSRCA, I hope to address this at our next board meeting to try to get y'all some answers as to how we could/should handle pattern events. They are AMA events though so hopefully we can get some answers for y'all through the S.I.G.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;">Vicente, I think the 400 ft AGL rule has always been in place per se.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff" data-mce-style="font-family: georgia,serif; color: #0000ff;">Scott</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" data-mce-style="color: #3333ff;"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: large;" data-mce-style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: large;" size="4">Scott A. McHarg</span></b><br><div>VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot</div><div>Texas A&M University</div><div>PPL - ASEL</div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="begin_alto_quote"><br></div>On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Karl Watts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Karl.Watts@saintalphonsus.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:Karl.Watts@saintalphonsus.org">Karl.Watts@saintalphonsus.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">OK, so how will this now impact our pattern competitions? Will we have to now provide proof of registration before we can fly at a contest and have our registration # on our plane? Does this replace the AMA #?<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Karl<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion<span class=""><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM<br> <b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br> </span><span class=""><b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;">Well, here it is boys and girls. It's official and starts next Monday. The link is for the FAQ's of what's happening. <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><div class="h5"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;"> You only have to register once and you don't have to individually register all of your models.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;">You must be able to provide proof of registration and have it on you when flying.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;">You must have your Registration # (not going to be a N number) in your airplane where it is legible and accessible without the use of tools (aka under your canopy). <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;">If you sell a model, you should update your records. (I don't completely understand this if we aren't registering all of our models individually but, OK)<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;">Registration is $5 but you'll get that back if you register in the first 30 days, I believe.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;">Have a look at the link and prepare to be upset.....<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:blue" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; color: blue;"><a href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/">http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/</a></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#3333ff" data-mce-style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #3333ff;">Scott A. 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