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<DIV>Ed</DIV>
<DIV>What about my burning wick DT in my 2oz P30
oooppppps! 2oz is less than .5 lbs right? I guess I'm safe
lighting up the skies with my P30...that can bust 400ft easily in any kind of
thermal yeah!</DIV>
<DIV>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 14, 2015 9:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=rgc1701@gmail.com
href="mailto:rgc1701@gmail.com">Robert Campbell</A> ; <A
title=love2flypattern@yahoo.com href="mailto:love2flypattern@yahoo.com">Jarvis
Johnson</A> ; <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December
21</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Well, apparently Free Flight without electronics is ok. What if
they figure out the incredible risk that a wind-up dethermalizer timer can
pose when it goes off. Oh, the humanity.<BR><BR>
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:49:34 -0600<BR>To: love2flypattern@yahoo.com;
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA
Registration begins December 21<BR>From:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><BR>
<P dir=ltr>No. It's for ALL MODEL AIRCRAFT, including control line
(tethered drones). We are totally screwed!!!<BR></P>
<P dir=ltr>On Dec 14, 2015 9:45 PM, "Jarvis Johnson via NSRCA-discussion" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> From my understanding, this is for drone user, not RC
flyer. <BR>><BR>> ________________________________<BR>> From: Derek
Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>><BR>>
To: astropuppy <<A
href="mailto:astropuppy@gmail.com">astropuppy@gmail.com</A>>; General pattern
discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
<BR>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 1:18 PM<BR>><BR>> Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21<BR>><BR>> Why does
this impact us? This is only for drone usage... isn't it?<BR>><BR>>
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> I propose the NSRCA buy all of our airplanes and
get one registration number, providing copies of the NSRCA "Certifcate of
Registration" to all members in good standing.<BR>>><BR>>> Q. If I
let someone borrow my drone do I have to give them the Certificate of
Registration?<BR>>> A. Yes, anyone who operates your drone must have the
Certificate of Aircraft Registration in their possession. You can give them a
paper copy, email it to them, or they can show it electronically from the
registration website.<BR>>><BR>>>
Mike<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On Mon, Dec 14,
2015 at 12:42 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>> Ah. That makes sense. Classic
failure to think though the use-cases. If they just took AMA/CAA/BMFA/etc.
#'s as valid registration they would solve for the same thing. If they
really wanted to, they could just ask AMA to provide data regarding their active
members and impose a constraint that AMA #'s can't be changed or
reused.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Peter+<BR>>>><BR>>>>
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott McHarg <<A
href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Peter,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Actually, if you're not a US
citizen, you have to do it by paper and snail mail. Only US Citizens can
use the website so if you fly in the US, according to the FAA, you still must
register and cannot fly unregistered here. I believe Rex pointed out why
that'd be a pain.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Scott A.
McHarg<BR>>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research
Pilot<BR>>>>> Texas A&M University<BR>>>>> PPL -
ASEL<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM,
Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> The really funny thing
here is that you have to be a US citizen to register your UAS, so if we
speculate that this is some kind of Anti-Terrorist thing (which, I don't believe
it to be), then they are missing a huge part of their
target.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> It's over reach and
redundant to the AMA membership requirement of having your AMA # or name in the
plane, but whatever, I'm happy to comply and really don't see the point in
getting my blood pressure elevated over this. I suspect sanity will return
over time as AMA and FAA continue to work together here, hopefully in a spirit
of partnership rather than an adversarial
relationship.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Peter+<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at
11:32 AM, Rex via NSRCA-discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Could be
interesting when having Canadians come to our pattern contests! Or from
any other country for that matter! That would have to be handled
through snail mail...<BR>>>>>>> OR....simply give your foreign
buddy a dollar for their plane....print your registration # on a piece of paper
and tape it inside the plane....give them a copy of your proof of
registration....you are good to go! They can buy it back when they are
ready to go home! I forget, what was the whole reason behind
registration?
:-)<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Rex
<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
smartphone<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
-------- Original message --------<BR>>>>>>> From: Jon Lowe
via NSRCA-discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>>>>>>>
Date: 12/14/2015 11:06 AM (GMT-08:00)<BR>>>>>>> To:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>>>>>>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December
21<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> I see no reason why
CDs or clubs need to be involved. This is between the individual and the FAA.
Unless AMA makes checking this be a requirement, we should not do anything. I
don't recall AMA checking FCC licenses back before the FCC realized that trying
to control Citizens Band was as useless as this is.<BR>>>>>>>
Jon<BR>>>>>>>
Jon<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
________________________________<BR>>>>>>> On Monday, December
14, 2015 Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
Karl,<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Good questions
which need to be addressed, pattern or not. The CD's are going to have to
make sure each entrant is registered or offer a way to have them register at the
field. The registration # does not replace the AMA # but must be contained
in or on the model and accessible without tools. Heck, AMA clubs are going
to have to make sure each person flying on a Sunday afternoon is
registered. Within the NSRCA, I hope to address this at our next board
meeting to try to get y'all some answers as to how we could/should handle
pattern events. They are AMA events though so hopefully we can get some
answers for y'all through the
S.I.G.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Vicente, I think
the 400 ft AGL rule has always been in place per
se.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
Scott<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Scott A.
McHarg<BR>>>>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research
Pilot<BR>>>>>>> Texas A&M
University<BR>>>>>>> PPL -
ASEL<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14,
2015 at 12:31 PM, Karl Watts <<A
href="mailto:Karl.Watts@saintalphonsus.org">Karl.Watts@saintalphonsus.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> OK, so
how will this now impact our pattern competitions? Will we have to now
provide proof of registration before we can fly at a contest and have our
registration # on our plane? Does this replace the AMA
#?<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>
Karl<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>
From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion<BR>>>>>>>>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM<BR>>>>>>>> To:
General pattern discussion<BR>>>>>>>> Subject:
[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December
21<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>> Well,
here it is boys and girls. It's official and starts next Monday. The
link is for the FAQ's of what's happening.
<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>
You only have to register once and you don't have to individually register all
of your models.<BR>>>>>>>> You must be able to provide
proof of registration and have it on you when
flying.<BR>>>>>>>> You must have your Registration # (not
going to be a N number) in your airplane where it is legible and accessible
without the use of tools (aka under your canopy).
<BR>>>>>>>> If you sell a model, you should update your
records. (I don't completely understand this if we aren't registering all of our
models individually but, OK)<BR>>>>>>>> Registration is $5
but you'll get that back if you register in the first 30 days, I
believe.<BR>>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>>
Have a look at the link and prepare to be
upset.....<BR>>>>>>>>
<BR>>>>>>>><A
href="http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/" target=_blank>
http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/</A><BR>>>>>>>>
<BR>>>>>>>> Scott A. McHarg<BR>>>>>>>>
VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot<BR>>>>>>>> Texas
A&M University<BR>>>>>>>> PPL -
ASEL<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>
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