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    Yes the canopy looks better- up close.<br>
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    Flying at 150 meters plus slant range to aircraft, it isn't highly
    noticeable which side is presented. Also where is the downgrade?<br>
    Typically, as a judge, I'm too busy to notice that there has been an
    effort to present the fuse top. I'm looking at radii, roll
    centering, straight lines, quality of stall turns, altitude of tops,
    altitude of bottoms, etc. I don't pay any attention to which side is
    presented and wouldn't know what to do with the information if I did
    notice. There is no downgrade available and I don't how you could
    add points for it.<br>
    However as a pilot, I would want to present the fuse top both times
    in this maneuver because it makes the stall turns more natural.<br>
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    John<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2015 1:01 PM, Patrick Harris
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      <div dir="ltr">Canopy's look better than landing gear's. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, John
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#3333FF"> Top or bottom is fine
              in either leg. Roll on downline will be the same direction
              as the upline for each leg.  You are correct in that you
              must be inverted through the 1/2 loop and of course
              upright on exit.<br>
              John
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                  <div>On 11/15/2015 11:59 AM, Mike Austin via
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                          <div>I have a question on the Figure M for
                            Advanced 2016 schedule. In reading the
                            maneuver description the 1/4 rolls can be in
                            either direction. So in the 1st vertical leg
                            the plane top can face you after the 1/4
                            roll and 2nd vertical leg you could see the
                            bottom of the airplane. Does it matter the
                            combination as long as the center 1/2 loop
                            is inverted? I want to make sure to practice
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                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                          <div>Mike</div>
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