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    Not real sure what the small red circles are supposed to represent
    but on the 17.03 the last one fell to the ground.  <br>
    <br>
    And yes obviously one power point is wrong on the "Big M"  Sounds
    like an unscaled McDonald's.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2015 6:16 AM, Anthony Romano
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      <div>One more maneuver three is half roll, 1 1/4 snaps reverse. </div>
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              <p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
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                  with consecutive 1⁄2 roll, two 1 1⁄4 snap-rolls, 1⁄2
                  roll
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              <p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
                  'ArialMT'">From inverted, perform consecutively a 1⁄2
                  roll, a 1 1⁄4 snap-roll, a 1 1⁄4 snap-roll in opposite
                  direction, a 1⁄2 roll,
                  exit inverted.</span></p>
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        On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:13 AM, "Anthony Romano via
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          <div>Hi Stu,</div>
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          <div>Moving up?  The aresti and maneuver description shows it
            exiting inverted. Slide F-17.13-1 shows it correctly but
            slide F-17.13-2 shows an incorrect upright exit. A real ugly
            and awkward maneuver that is very hard to see to fly and
            probably worse to judge. </div>
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          <div>The slide for fourteen also seems to need some revision
            as well. The description includes a half circle with an
            integrated 1/4 roll (which I think should be a half roll) in
            the second radius changing the orientation of the aircraft
            which is not shown in the slide. </div>
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                      consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, 1⁄2 roll, 1⁄2 roll
                      integrated, 1⁄2 roll, two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls
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                  <p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
                      'ArialMT'">From upright, pull through a 1/4 loop
                      into a vertical upline, perform two consecutive
                      1⁄4 rolls, perform a 1⁄2
                      knife-edge loop into a vertical downline, perform
                      a 1⁄2 roll, push through a 1⁄2 loop into a
                      vertical upline while
                      performing a 1⁄2 roll integrated, perform a 1⁄2
                      roll, perform a 1⁄2 knife-edge loop into a
                      vertical downline, perform
                      two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, push through a 1/4
                      loop, exit inverted.
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                  <p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
                      'Arial'; font-weight: 700">F-17.14 Fighter Turn
                      with 1⁄4 roll, 1⁄4 roll integrated, 1⁄4 roll
                    </span></p>
                  <p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
                      'ArialMT'">From inverted, push through a 1/8 loop
                      into a 45° upline, perform a 1⁄4 roll, push
                      through a 1⁄2 circle into a 45°
                      upline while performing a 1⁄4 roll integrated to
                      the outside, perform a 1⁄4 roll, push through a
                      1/8 loop, exit
                      upright. </span></p>
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            <div>Great to see people are looking at these schedules
              already so these issues can be worked out. </div>
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            On Sep 17, 2015, at 10:39 PM, "Stuart Chale via
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              I didn't see the description but I am having trouble
              coming out upright as the PP shows.<br>
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              You enter upright pull to vertical then 2/4 then knife
              edge over. 1/2 roll on the way down <br>
              So you are starting the middle of the M as a push with an
              integrated 1/2 roll in the half loop.<br>
              The second upline is like  the first only the 1/2 is going
              up and 2/4 going down after the knife edge half loop.  I
              keep coming out inverted.<br>
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              Stuart<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/17/2015 9:38 PM, Atwood,
                Mark via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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                Yup.  Pretty knarly eh? 
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                    <div>On Sep 17, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Don Ramsey via
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                                style="color:#1F497D">F-17.13  Has
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