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sorry meant to say up-scaled McDonald's :) Funny how a joke falls
really flat when you misspell the punch line.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2015 9:18 AM, Stuart Chale via
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Not real sure what the small red circles are supposed to represent
but on the 17.03 the last one fell to the ground. <br>
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And yes obviously one power point is wrong on the "Big M" Sounds
like an unscaled McDonald's.<br>
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<div>One more maneuver three is half roll, 1 1/4 snaps reverse. </div>
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with consecutive 1⁄2 roll, two 1 1⁄4 snap-rolls, 1⁄2
roll </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
'ArialMT'">From inverted, perform consecutively a
1⁄2 roll, a 1 1⁄4 snap-roll, a 1 1⁄4 snap-roll in
opposite direction, a 1⁄2 roll, exit inverted.</span></p>
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<div>Moving up? The aresti and maneuver description shows
it exiting inverted. Slide F-17.13-1 shows it correctly
but slide F-17.13-2 shows an incorrect upright exit. A
real ugly and awkward maneuver that is very hard to see to
fly and probably worse to judge. </div>
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<div>The slide for fourteen also seems to need some revision
as well. The description includes a half circle with an
integrated 1/4 roll (which I think should be a half roll)
in the second radius changing the orientation of the
aircraft which is not shown in the slide. </div>
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two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, 1⁄2 roll, 1⁄2 roll
integrated, 1⁄2 roll, two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls
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<p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
'ArialMT'">From upright, pull through a 1/4 loop
into a vertical upline, perform two consecutive
1⁄4 rolls, perform a 1⁄2 knife-edge loop into a
vertical downline, perform a 1⁄2 roll, push
through a 1⁄2 loop into a vertical upline while
performing a 1⁄2 roll integrated, perform a 1⁄2
roll, perform a 1⁄2 knife-edge loop into a
vertical downline, perform two consecutive 1⁄4
rolls, push through a 1/4 loop, exit inverted. </span></p>
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with 1⁄4 roll, 1⁄4 roll integrated, 1⁄4 roll </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family:
'ArialMT'">From inverted, push through a 1/8
loop into a 45° upline, perform a 1⁄4 roll, push
through a 1⁄2 circle into a 45° upline while
performing a 1⁄4 roll integrated to the outside,
perform a 1⁄4 roll, push through a 1/8 loop,
exit upright. </span></p>
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<div>Great to see people are looking at these schedules
already so these issues can be worked out. </div>
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I didn't see the description but I am having trouble
coming out upright as the PP shows.<br>
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You enter upright pull to vertical then 2/4 then knife
edge over. 1/2 roll on the way down <br>
So you are starting the middle of the M as a push with
an integrated 1/2 roll in the half loop.<br>
The second upline is like the first only the 1/2 is
going up and 2/4 going down after the knife edge half
loop. I keep coming out inverted.<br>
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Stuart<br>
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Yup. Pretty knarly eh?
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