<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Stu,</div><div><br></div><div>Moving up? The aresti and maneuver description shows it exiting inverted. Slide F-17.13-1 shows it correctly but slide F-17.13-2 shows an incorrect upright exit. A real ugly and awkward maneuver that is very hard to see to fly and probably worse to judge. </div><div><br></div><div>The slide for fourteen also seems to need some revision as well. The description includes a half circle with an integrated 1/4 roll (which I think should be a half roll) in the second radius changing the orientation of the aircraft which is not shown in the slide. </div><div><br></div><div>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'Arial'; font-weight: 700">F-17.13 Big-M with two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, 1⁄2 roll, 1⁄2 roll integrated, 1⁄2 roll, two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls
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<p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'ArialMT'">From upright, pull through a 1/4 loop into a vertical upline, perform two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, perform a 1⁄2
knife-edge loop into a vertical downline, perform a 1⁄2 roll, push through a 1⁄2 loop into a vertical upline while
performing a 1⁄2 roll integrated, perform a 1⁄2 roll, perform a 1⁄2 knife-edge loop into a vertical downline, perform
two consecutive 1⁄4 rolls, push through a 1/4 loop, exit inverted.
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<p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'Arial'; font-weight: 700">F-17.14 Fighter Turn with 1⁄4 roll, 1⁄4 roll integrated, 1⁄4 roll
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<p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'ArialMT'">From inverted, push through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a 1⁄4 roll, push through a 1⁄2 circle into a 45°
upline while performing a 1⁄4 roll integrated to the outside, perform a 1⁄4 roll, push through a 1/8 loop, exit
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</div><div><br></div><div>Great to see people are looking at these schedules already so these issues can be worked out. </div><div><br></div>Anthony<br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 17, 2015, at 10:39 PM, "Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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I didn't see the description but I am having trouble coming out
upright as the PP shows.<br>
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You enter upright pull to vertical then 2/4 then knife edge over.
1/2 roll on the way down <br>
So you are starting the middle of the M as a push with an integrated
1/2 roll in the half loop.<br>
The second upline is like the first only the 1/2 is going up and
2/4 going down after the knife edge half loop. I keep coming out
inverted.<br>
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Has anyone looked at the description and
PowerPoint of this maneuver?
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