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    It is maneuver 14.  17 is a half reverse cuban.<br>
    Cobra roll has been the description of any maneuver that follows a
    push or pullup to 45 degree upline with or without elements followed
    by a pull or push over to a 45 degree down line with or without
    elements.<br>
    <br>
    Here is something from the web from 1995-96 rules bridge<br>
    COBRA ROLL WITH QUARTER ROLLS UP AND DOWN **!!!INCORRECT
    DESCRIPTION!!!**<br>
    (see page #73)<br>
    DESCRIPTION SHOULD READ:<br>
    Model pulls up to and executes one-eight (1/8) loop to a 45 degree
    climb, hesitates, performs two-of-4-point roll to inverted,
    hesitates, performs one-quarter (1/4) loop into a 45 degree dive,
    hesitates, performs two-of-4-point roll to upright, hesitates, then
    recovers with one-eight (1/8) loop to level flight.<br>
    <br>
    Now of course the current sportsman maneuver of cobra roll without
    rolls sounds like an oxymoron.<br>
    <br>
    Stuart<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/2/2015 2:16 PM, Don Ramsey via
      NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">BTW,
            why is Masters maneuver 17 call a “Cobra Roll” anyway?  It
            has nothing to do with a roll.  A better name might be
            “Cobra”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                NSRCA-discussion
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:52 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Jon Lowe; General pattern discussion; Stuart
                Chale<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">"Loop" equals 360 degrees.  Would not
            "roll" also equal 360 degrees?<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">In AMA, 2 point roll, 4 point roll, and 8
            point roll all convey a full rotation with no change in
            direction. <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Unless AMA adopts the FAI style of
            describing rolls, it seems a roll should be a roll?<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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          Date: 09/02/2015 9:35 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
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          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cobra rolls <br>
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          Just looked at the maneuver description, and it doesn't
          specify roll direction.<br>
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          Jon Lowe<br>
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          On Sep 2, 2015 8:04 AM, Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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          > Is there a specified direction to the second portion of a
          cobra roll.  <br>
          > Roll in same direction as first half of the maneuver or
          is it pilots choice. <br>
          > M17 has a Cobra roll with 4 of 8 on each half. <br>
          > Thanks, <br>
          > Stuart <br>
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