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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi Ron:<div><br></div><div>It takes some additional circuitry to determine when to light the LED to give a go/no go indication based on an acceptable battery voltage / state of charge. It's not that anything would run hot, it's easy enough to build something that performs the function and runs cool, but it's more than a resistor and an LED.</div><div><br></div><div>Ed</div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 01:25:08 +0000<br>From: ronlock@comcast.net<br>To: ed_alt@hotmail.com; nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>Subject: Arming plug and Failsafe<br><br><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div>I'm in if you have any thoughts of marketing one.</div>
<div>In mean time, how much fuss is it to come up with a part number</div>
<div>for the resistor & LED? Is resistor gonna get hot?</div>
<div>This raises question of at what voltages will LED be on?</div>
<div>We want it on, in the case pilot runs batts way too low, as</div>
<div>in loaded a used set and got a third of the way thru sequence.</div>
<div>I guess nothing is as simple as it first appears.</div>
<div>In my Bravo, given large canopy, LED will have to mount in front of</div>
<div>firewall, or behind canopy.</div>
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<div>I'm still interested in an LED that would confirm installed batts</div>
<div>are above 20v, to prevent installing a lightly or heavily used set.</div>
<div>Later, Ron</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000;FONT-STYLE:normal;"><b>From: </b>"Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>To: </b>"Vicente Bortone" <vincebrc@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:57:16 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming plug and Failsafe<br>
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<div>In its simplest form, It's just a resistor and an LED.<br>
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<div><br>On May 19, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Vicente Bortone <<a href="mailto:vincebrc@gmail.com" target="_blank">vincebrc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I agree with Ed. I think the 50 ft could be increases to 100 ft. It is just amazing how bright is that LED. Ok Ed, <span></span> You got a new product to make. The ARMING LED. <br>
<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:45 AM Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="https://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e%28%7b%7d%2c%27cvml%27%2c%27nsrca-discussion%40lists.nsrca.org%27%29%3b" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Not with the LEDs I use. You can see them at 50 feet on a bright day.<br>
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<div><br>On May 19, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jay Marshall via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="https://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e%28%7b%7d%2c%27cvml%27%2c%27nsrca-discussion%40lists.nsrca.org%27%29%3b" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:#1f497d;">No - Difficult to reliably see LED in bright sunlight ….<span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Bradley Hand ITC";COLOR:#1f497d;">Jay Marshall<span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></b></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> NSRCA-discussion [<a href="https://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e%28%7b%7d%2c%27cvml%27%2c%27nsrca-discussion-bounces%40lists.nsrca.org%27%29%3b" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jas via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming plug and Failsafe<span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">Nice idea, light weight and probably easy to do. <br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt;"><br>On May 19, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Rudy via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="https://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e%28%7b%7d%2c%27cvml%27%2c%27nsrca-discussion%40lists.nsrca.org%27%29%3b" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";">All this rhetoric is making us aware of electrical safety issues in pattern flying. That’s good in itself whether you use an arming device or use a switch on your radio. Redundant systems: arming and radio switch are safer still. They both work when used.</span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";">Someone mentioned how can you tell if the plan is energized. Hmm, how about an LED light at the top of the plan just behind the canopy that is lit when the system is energized. Oh my, that’s another worm for the cam.</span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";">¿Por Qué No?</span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p>
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