<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">For the purists who do not want asymmetric drag-producing exterior elements, one could install an arming plug on each side of the aircraft; green LED on the right side arming plug and red LED on the right side arming plug.  Then you could tell you had low voltage no matter which way the airplane was going.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">What I think would be really cool is an LED on a deans arming plug so that plug lights up when it's in and armed.  Put different colors based on voltage and you have a cheap check for accidentally using a discharged pack.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Peter+</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Steve Hannah via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">If all you want is an external indication of armed packs, this is really easy to do. I just installed a blinding green LED on mine . I have mine connected to my RX on an unused channel. Since I use the Mezon 90 with BEC it will be illuminated when either my main packs are connected or if just my backup is powering the RX. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I got the LED (actually several colors to try), mount and a 270 ohm resistor from sparkfun and allelectronics.  Sparkfun's LED's are brighter than allelectronics. I can see the darn thing 150m out!<br class=""><br class="">Use this tool to figure out what you need for a resistor. <a href="http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz" target="_blank" class="">http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz</a><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class="">On May 27, 2015, at 18:42, Jas via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">So a combination red/orange/green led for 38v, 40v and 42v?<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iP</div><div class=""><br class="">On May 27, 2015, at 9:25 PM, ronlock--- via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class="">I'm in if you have any thoughts of marketing one.</div>
<div class="">In mean time, how much fuss is it to come up with a part number</div>
<div class="">for the resistor & LED?  Is resistor gonna get hot?</div>
<div class="">This raises question of at what voltages will LED be on?</div>
<div class="">We want it on, in the case pilot runs batts way too low, as</div>
<div class="">in loaded a used set and got a third of the way thru sequence.</div>
<div class="">I guess nothing is as simple as it first appears.</div>
<div class="">In my Bravo, given large canopy, LED will have to mount in front of</div>
<div class="">firewall, or behind canopy.</div>
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<div class="">I'm still interested in an LED that would confirm installed batts</div>
<div class="">are above 20v, to prevent installing a lightly or heavily used set.</div>
<div class="">Later,  Ron</div>
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<div class="">In its simplest form, It's just a resistor and an LED.<br class="">
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<div class="">I agree with Ed.  I think the 50 ft could be increases to 100 ft. It is just amazing how bright is that LED. Ok Ed, <span class=""></span> You got a new product to make.  The ARMING LED. <br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:45 AM Ed Alt via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="https://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org');" target="_blank" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">Not with the LEDs I use.  You can see them at 50 feet on a bright day.<br class="">
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<div class=""><br class="">On May 19, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jay Marshall via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="https://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org');" target="_blank" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:#1f497d" class="">No - Difficult to reliably see LED in bright sunlight ….<span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span></span></p><div class=""><span style="COLOR:#1f497d" class=""><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span> <span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Bradley Hand ITC";COLOR:#1f497d" class="">Jay Marshall<span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span></span></b></p></div><div class=""><span style="COLOR:#1f497d" class=""><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span> <span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"" class="">All this rhetoric is making us aware of electrical safety issues in pattern flying. That’s good in itself whether you use an arming device or use a switch on your radio. Redundant systems: arming and radio switch are safer still. They both work when used.</span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span></p><div class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"" class=""> </span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"" class="">Someone mentioned how can you tell if the plan is energized. Hmm, how about an LED light at the top of the plan just behind the canopy that is lit when the system is energized. Oh my, that’s another worm for the cam.</span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span></p><div class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"" class=""> </span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif"" class="">¿Por Qué No?</span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span></p><div class=""><span style="FONT-SIZE:16pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Comic Sans MS"" class=""> </span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""> <span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline" class=""></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></blockquote>
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