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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>The nice thing about being brought up
around GUNS.. It teaches people to respect it always as though it is loaded and
cocked ready to deliver its physical life altering energy!!!.. < tic >
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<A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">David Cook via
NSRCA-discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jimwoodward89@gmail.com
href="mailto:jimwoodward89@gmail.com">Jim Woodward</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:48
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming
device</DIV>
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<DIV>Just to open the can of worms from the other end.</DIV>
<DIV>Now that I have seen the damage a runaway can do to a pool table even
with an external arming device, I have begun to make it a common practice to
remove the prop from the electric planes any time I am not at the field
flying. Store the ammunition and the pin under two different locks. How easy
is it to be careless in the shop or transporting a plane. This thread could
just explode with stories of mishaps we have made or come way too close to.
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<DIV>You just can't be too carful with these things!!!</DIV>
<DIV>DC</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Jim Woodward via
NSRCA-discussion <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>... Going electric induces a mental physchosis that requires everyone
else to switch, then go and change the rules for glow :) <BR><BR>Sent
from my iPhone</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On May 16, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Keith Hoard via NSRCA-discussion
<<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I
think the YS guys should have their caller remove the fuel tank and glow
plug before picking up the plane and exiting the runway . .
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NSRCA-discussion [<A
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target=_blank>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>precisionaero via NSRCA-discussion<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday,
May 16, 2015 8:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming
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<P class=MsoNormal>I think we should reconfigure a YS engine to drive a
generator to supply electricity to the electric
motor.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE
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<P class=MsoNormal>From: Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion
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<P class=MsoNormal>Date:05/16/2015 09:31 (GMT-05:00)
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<P class=MsoNormal>To: General pattern discussion , <A
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net" target=_blank>ronlock@comcast.net</A>,
David <U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming device
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>I think we're all in
agreement, which is why the rules proposal we put forth requires a
*physical* break in the circuit!<U></U><U></U></P>
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target=_blank>Outlook</A><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>On Sat, May 16, 2015 at
6:16 AM -0700, "ronlock--- via NSRCA-discussion" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">I'm in
agreement.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">Ron
Lockhart<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; COLOR: black">"David via
NSRCA-discussion" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR><B>To: </B><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Sent:
</B>Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:14:21 AM<BR><B>Subject:
</B>[NSRCA-discussion] Arming device<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; COLOR: black">I'm not trying
to bring up a sore subject but this has been bugging me since it was up
a while back. I am the senior electronics technician in the plasma
physics department at the University of Wisconsin. About a third of what
I do is make interlock circuits for the Madison Symmetric Torus. I know
that the best way of keeping things safe is to remove the potential
energy from a circuit to keep bad things from happening. The problem
with depending on a circuit such as the emcotec type of disconnect or to
just relying solely on the radio and ESC to keep things safe is failure
modes. You can plan for all different failure types but to make it a
circuit that isn't a lead brick being added to the plane there are
compromises that have to be made. This leads to designing systems that
may deal with only the most common types of failures. For example most
common diodes and tantalum capacitors usually fail in a shorted mode,
but not always. Many carbon resistors will decrease in résistance just
prior to opening up. You get the idea, there are just so many
possibilities and combinations that in my opinion the only real way to
safe a power system is to disconnect the energy source. Ok, now I feel
better that I said something. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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