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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Submitted from a smoky back room?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3P Team Wrapup<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Who submitted the list of judges? Was it an NSRCA list, which was approved and submitted by AMA, or some other process?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ron<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps I can explain...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The list of judges is submitted to CIAM every year by November 15. The list is valid for 2 years from the time it is submitted. My name was on the list in 2013 and 2014 and the organizers of the event used that list for the selection of judges at the F3P WC. The organizer selected all the judges from the approved list of judges and this list is then approved by CIAM at their meeting in November last year.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Does that help?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jon L.,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am not sure and probalby you can explain. Looks like the rankings and the actual USA judge we selected are not in tune. As I recall, you were ranked first at the F3P team selection. I could be wrong as usual. Probably this is the reason why Ron is asking the question.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Jon Lowe <<a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>NSRCA and AMA have considered them separate, and submitted them as such, but FAI to date does not, as explained in the Dec 2014 KFactor.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Apr 16, 2015 6:46 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> Jon,<br>><br>> Are f3p and f3a considered two diferent cases? <br>><br>> Thanks,<br>><br>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone. <br>><br>> On Thursday, April 16, 2015, joncarter60 via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Ron - I will be doing an article on current judge rankings in an upcoming K-Factor. <br>>><br>>> Thanks<br>>><br>>> Jon Carter<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone<br>>><br>>><br>>> -------- Original message --------<br>>> From: Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>>> Date: 04/15/2015 9:11 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>>> To: NSRCA <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3P Team Wrapup<br>>><br>>> I haven’t seen the latest judge rankings. Maybe I missed them too. <br>>><br>>> If they were already published, can we see them again, please?<br>>><br>>> Ron Van Putte<br>>><br>>> > On Apr 15, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Jon Lowe <<a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> ><br>>> > Ron,<br>>> > I explained the selection process in the Dec 2014 KFactor. I believe all of the country judges are on the organizers site for the F3P WCs.<br>>> ><br>>> > Jon<br>>> ><br>>> > On Apr 15, 2015 7:10 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> Anybody know who the F3P WC judges were and how they got selected?<br>>> >><br>>> >> Ron<br>>> >><br>>> >>> On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Well, most know the F3P WC is over. The Team has been quiet (exhausted perhaps) since returning from Poland. It was a great learning experience and a great time meeting in person many internet friends. The competition level was extremely high, and the US Team finished a very respectable 5th out of 18 Teams. Not too bad for the first appearance of the US on the F3P international stage.<br>>> >>> <br>>> >>> This coming Tuesday, 21 April, the Team will again be on the RCRN Airshow at 830 EDT for a post WC wrapup, and to announce the winners of the Giant Raffle.<br>>> >>> <a href="http://www.rcradionetwork.com/schedule.php" target="_blank">http://www.rcradionetwork.com/schedule.php</a><br>>> >>> <br>>> >>> Raffle tickets will be available for purchase until Sunday at midnight (19 April).<br>>> >>> <a href="http://www.teamusaf3p.com/index.php/giant-raffle" target="_blank">http://www.teamusaf3p.com/index.php/giant-raffle</a><br>>> >>> <br>>> >>> There are also a limited number of Team Tshirts remaining (only $20).<br>>> >>> <a href="http://www.teamusaf3p.com/index.php/shirt-sales" target="_blank">http://www.teamusaf3p.com/index.php/shirt-sales</a><br>>> >>> <br>>> >>> Thanks again for the support!<br>>> >>> <br>>> >>> Regards,<br>>> >>><br>>> >>> Dave<br>>> >>> <br>>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>>> >>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>>> >>> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>>> >>> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4331/9549 - Release Date: 04/16/15<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>