<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yeah, the FAA will try, but they will do a bad job of it. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">First they will procrastinate, then they will rush to finish it and publish it. The rushed rules will be too broad, covering all airborne activity, including runaway balloons, butterflies and birds. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have experience with this stuff, being a cynical former government employee.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 11, 2015, at 5:26 PM, John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: ArialMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">You cannot regulate stupid people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But the FAA will try anyway !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, February 11, 2015 10:46 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'General pattern discussion'<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] How High Can Drones Fly<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">And THIS is the reason why “laws” are ineffective. While all of this B.S. is going on, there are “law-abiding” AMA members working with the FAA to create legislation, reporting their flying sight GPS coordinates to the FAA, having their yearly “talk” with the FBI (as a club president I have to talk to an FBI agent and report that I haven’t seen ANY type of “suspicious” activity at my flying field during the year). Limiting their flight ceiling, observing NOTAMs, not flying when the airspace is restricted, etc, etc. Laws only affect the people who are honest and would probably not cause any trouble anyway because they have COMMON SENSE. Meanwhile ignorant idiots just do whatever they want to – regardless of “laws” and “restrictions”. Without enforcement, laws are almost meaningless. Let’s NOT talk about gun laws – but the same thing applies. Sad but true.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">John Pavlick<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Cell: 203-417-4971<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span id="cid:image001.png@01D0461F.E752D400"><image001.png></span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Impact, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Integrated Development Services</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Bill's Email via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, February 11, 2015 10:33 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General pattern discussion<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] How High Can Drones Fly<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It is very common for smaller UAS opertors, like those who operate the DJI Phantom quads, to illegally modify their antennas in order to fly at greater distances and alitudes than the stock equipment would allow. A company named "Flytrex" gives them that ability to log their flights and post on line for "awards".<br class=""><br class="">4,000 feet is entirely possible and almost commonplace for many of these idiots.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://www.flytrex.com/challenges/distance/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.flytrex.com/challenges/distance/</a><br class=""><br class="">Bill<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 2/11/15 4:32 AM, Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I just saw a commercial on Fox News promoting an upcoming Gretchen Carlson show where she asks the question why do drones fly as high as 5000 ft?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I wouldn’t think the run of the mill quad copter could fly that high but I have no idea.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Not to mention you couldn’t see it at that height.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Food for thought.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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